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Even Mother Jones Confirms Police Provoked by Occupy Oakland Demonstrators

As reported on Thursday by Newsbusters' Mark Finkelstein, Joe Scarborough and some members of his MSNBC Morning Joe crew shot their mouths off about what Mike Barnicle described as a  "police riot" at the Occupy Oakland protests before waiting for all the facts. And now it appears that the Morning Joe folks have shot themselves in the foot as well since reports from the scene show that it was the police who were clearly provoked by the Occupy Oakland demonstrators.

So were these reports from the usual "rightwing" suspects? Nope. The reports confirming the provocations from the demonstrators came from the leftwing Mother Jones magazine and were supported by the very liberal San Francisco Chronicle. Here is the initial report from the scene by James West of Mother Jones:

Violence came in waves. Many demonstrators peace-saluted police and called through bullhorns: "This is a peaceful protest! This is a civilian movement!" But from the moment I arrived in Oakland at 10:15 p.m., I saw a visible minority spoiling for conflict. Tinder had built across the night at the intersection of 14th Street and Broadway, a mixture of expectation and adrenaline...

...Xavier Manalo, a 25-year-old tennis instructor holding the forward-most protest banner, admitted there were "rogue elements" in the group but insisted the "pressure of the peaceful will be the deterrent" to the violence.

Manalo was wrong. I saw groups of protestors arguing, not only with the police—who were the constant subject of heckling and catcalls—but with each other. There were calls to retaliate by throwing things like eggs back over the barricade, just as a big group of around 40 people started to chant, "Don't Throw Shit! Don't Throw Shit!"

But it sounds like that is exactly what the Morning Joe team of Joe Scarborough,  Mike Barnicle, and Willie Geist were throwing when they made their unsubstantiated charges about a "police riot" before waiting for the facts.

...At the height of this melee, I saw two men throw bottles at the police.

Were those a couple of the "peaceful demonstrators" that Willie Geist was referring to?

Another bottle was hurled from the crowd and tear gas canisters were lobbed back.

Time now to remember the Harold Ford, Jr. quote from that show about the Oakland police: "They created hysteria for no reason."

As the protesters filtered away, I spoke with a group of tired cops covered in blue and orange paint—and that wasn't all, said one sergeant who wouldn't give his name. He said they'd also been pelted with glass and vinegar, and one officer claimed to have tasted urine in the mix.

The hardly conservative San Francisco Chronicle also confirmed that the paint tossing Oakland protesters were far from peaceful:

Police gave repeated warnings to protesters to disperse from the entrance to Frank Ogawa Plaza at 14th Street and Broadway before firing several tear gas canisters into the crowd at about 7:45 p.m.

...Police forcibly dispersed the crowd with tear gas again about 9:30 p.m., when protesters began throwing objects at them...

...Protesters threw turquoise and red paint at the riot officers. Some led the crowd in chanting, "This is why we call you pigs."

...some protesters tried to fight with police and were clubbed and kicked in return...

A note to the Morning Joe crew (Mika Brzezinski excepted): A police response is not the same as a police riot. Even some protesters on the scene showed more common sense about what was really happening than the Morning Joe crew:

Some protesters who avoided conflict and wanted to show their support for the Occupy Wall Street movement were displeased by the violent turns.

"They didn't have to force police into that situation," said Helen Walker, 46, a nurse from Albany. "It was totally provoked, and if I could have, I would have stopped those idiots from throwing paint."

And these provocations by the Occupy Oakland gang were hardly rare:

Toward the end of the night, protesters continued throwing objects at officers, only to be tear gassed in return.

So it appears that the Morning Joe crew owe their viewers a collective "OOPS!" and an apology for jumping to conclusions about a "police riot" before all the facts were in. One fringe benefit of such an apology would be the disapproving glare on Willie Geist's face which has been hilariously described by Jon Stewart.

Meanwhile Mika earns bonus points for being the voice of reason on Morning Joe in this situation for urging the others to WAIT until more facts come in before hurling unsubstantiated charges at the Oakland police.

Comments

#1 history

If you will examine the past activity by "liberal" activists, you will find that rather than peaceful protest they embrace violent confrontation. They have no interest in merely presenting their views, they must have blood and violence to draw attention to their cause. If they can't provoke violence on the part of authorities, they will engage in acts of terrorism.

I would suggest that when those willing dupes and useful idiots cause problems, their financial backers be made to pay damages and restitution. Would soros be the grinning puppet master subsidizing riot and anarchy, if he were to be beggared by the consequences? Somehow, I think not.

#2 They have no interest in presenting their views

They have no interest in presenting their views because there's no way they can effectively sell anarchy, socialism, marxism, sexual perversion, thievery, state-sponsored racism, infanticide, and total government control to the public.

#3 This is one of the things

This is one of the things that gets me about the recent high school history books' coverage of the Kent State shooting. Those guys shouldn't have gone that far at that point if the 'conventional wisdom' is true (some eyewitness testimony say a student had a pistol, and some of the forensic analysis of audio tape indicates 4 .38 revolver shots were fired before the NGs opened up on the crowd); but it's treated like it just happened in a void because military and police are just violent. I haven't read anything newer than 15 years old go into how they were subject to constant harassment since the start of the anti-war movement, simple assault, assault with weapons, the ROTC quarters firebombed, and that the protestors had been rioting in the town just days prior.

#4 Recent interviews with the

Recent interviews with the former leaders of the KGB and NKVD following the fall of the USSR indicates that they provided significant seed money tothe Anti-war movement. But is that part of the popular history of the period? No, because academics who write histories of the period would rather not be forced to explain that in their youth they were dupes of the sov's.

He is best who is trained in the severest school." -Thucydides, "History of the Peloponnesian War" (431-404 B.C.)

#5 I'm so glad...

I'm so glad Obama is President! Can you imagin where we'd be if Bush was still President? I mean there would be rioting and melee everywhere. People would be out of work, the value of property would plummet, stocks would be down. Hey wait, that's going on already! How can that be?

"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!

#6 They just need to be THUMPED

They just need to be THUMPED. All of them. Period.

#7 Concur. It might be useful

Concur. It might be useful to consider releasing some GITMO prisoners in their midst to see if the 30% of the really think the US is equal to AQ in terror have a change of heart.

THey might find it a learning experience.

He is best who is trained in the severest school." -Thucydides, "History of the Peloponnesian War" (431-404 B.C.)

#8 This is human nature at work

and it's not going to get better unless a different outside force (like the weather or a lack of funds) causes these losers to retreat back to whence they came. Consider the conditions: They're angry; not riled into anger, they arrived angry. They're living in squalor. Granted, they created it, but it's filth, no less. They're increasingly being exposed as unprepared and incapable of creating the utopian society they all think is so easily created. They're frustrated and growing more so each day. They're turning on each other.

(As an aside, maybe Joe Biden should have said that if the American Jobs Act isn't passed, OWS violence will skyrocket.)

The question is, what happens if weather or funding doesn't kill this movement? What happens if these idiots actually declare secession like they're threatening in DC? What happens if clashes with police escalate? What happens if governors call for National Guard mobilization? This will put Obama and the media in a really bad spot. Obama's been tacitly supporting this movement up to this point; hoping to draw on it's energy to support his re-election bid. If it becomes violent, he'll have painted himself into a corner. The media has generally shown their support behind the movement as well. If more injuries occur as a result of these clashes, the media will have to either change their mood toward the protestors, or go all in with support.

And then there's the unions. Polling seems to suggest that Obama job approval among OWS protesters is as low, or lower than in the general public. And we know the unions -who steadfastly support Obama- have infiltrated the group to some degree. This likely means that the vast majority of those not supporting Obama are non-union, setting up potential clashes within the movement - non-Obama supporters vs. Obama supporters (unions).

This has the potential of being explosive. I'm not thrilled about the 6-8 inches of late October global warming falling from the sky today, but maybe it'll help drive off the OWS crowd before it worse. Let's hope so.

#9 When you club a protester

When you club a protester senseless, does anyone care? I am disappointed at the police. They should use tasers, they increases the entertainment value tremendously.

Non, je ne regrette rien. "You aren't angry because I might be a racist, you're angry because you know I'm right".

#10 I disagree...

I respectfully disagree. With the attack of the protesters, and that is what it was... an attack, the useful idiots being tasered would end up touching the cops giving the cops a bit of a tickle.

On the other hand, next time they form a human chain, just tase ONE. They'll all feel the tickle and THAT would be cause for entertainment!!!

We dare not tempt them with weakness. For only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed.

#11 OWS violence will skyrocket

According to Biden, we need a police officer in every tent just to stop the sexual assaults.

#12 Talk to the police

Of course you only hear the side of the protesters.I heard on a local talk show that "chunks of concrete " were also lobbed at the police,along with the paint,coffee cans filled with misc.items,nails,etc.....The police had used their shields to protect themselves ,but it became a volatile situation,just what certain elements had wanted all along.

#13 Mika & Joe

Proof God's in control of everything, including how we make fools of ourselves to keep us humble. This time Mika was the voice of reason and the usually more perceptive Joe foolishly blew his rationality.

#14 The commenters at motherjones

The commenters at motherjones aren't buying it and are calling her/he/it a liar and a sellout to the cops.

#15 whoops.

In LA the anarchists are angry and they're not gonna take it anymore.

"When a runner from the General Assembly made the announcement that they would begin the meeting, he was thunderously shouted down, then someone yelled out “The GA is dead!” and the crowd erupted in both celebration and shock: “We don’t want you or your f***ing procedure!”

I've been watching the OccupySeattle movement since it first went "live" and it's suffering from a lot of the same problems.   A minority have wanted to keep the cops out of their business for quite some time and have been pushing to more and more violent and destructive things.  As the weather winnows down the people that were just there for the free stuff and the attention, the minority will be the majority and this will get uglier.

The irony of this?  If they "won" the communists and the anarchists would have to take out each other.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

#16 I see an opportunity...

..for local governments to raise money. I would gladly pay money -a dollar per rubber bullet- to shoot those hippies with total immunity from legal charges. I could easily spend a few hundred on that....

#17 Just Got Back From OWS

Hello all! It has been awhile, but I have been much busy. I just returned home from the OWS protest. It was grand! I can attest that what some old time conservatives are painting as a narrative about this great mass of politically conscious young adults is simply not true. The brotherhood I experienced in the crowd was truly illuminating. The Eros, the pathos softened my hardened heart! Each one of you should take a week off at work to attend- it is your civic duty! I digress, to a simple narrative about my experience and the love that I witnessed. As I was listening to the chants, a group of aggressive Reaganites came inside the encampment. Their sole purpose to spread discord in this Utopia. One young man had his shoes off; they were set to the side by this mob of Reaganites. Well the Reaganites took his shoes and ran away. This poor young man was shoeless! The humanity! A bunch of us got together and we decided that as a community all 12 of us would give up our shoes for one hour rotating among us. Of course we all joked because my shoes were way too big for him, I got the loveable nickname Bigfoot. Yes friends, you do not hear stories like that every day.

~Fins~

#18 What's a Reaganite ?

Can you describe for us loser conservatives just what a Reagonite is ? Real glad you had a good time..........if you are sincere, but you will have to excuse my absence, I won't be going there !
Hear 90% of the tents are empty after dark anyway.

#19 Reaganite 101

Gladly friend, a Reaganite is one who offers simple childlike solutions to complex social ills in society. A Reaganite offers no intellectual curiosity to underling problems.

#20 "Underling" problems?

I can sympathize; my butler and valet are getting annoying with their constant requests for time off (as if four hours a month are not enough!).

Beware of trolls who try to be witty.

#21 Based upon Jr., no doubt

An apt term, based upon President Reagan's youngest son's liberal philosophy, no doubt.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court

Or Anwar al-Awlaki.

#22 For the returning Statist/Socialist...

Your whine about "complex social ills" shows me you refuse to study any history whatsoever.  A lot of problems in today's world can be solved very simply.  And by and large they aren't things civilization hasn't seen before. 

For instance, if you want to avoid poverty in this country, all one needs to do is finish high school, manage their income well, and don't take on responsibilities before they are ready (such as children). 

You and your fellow Socialists are truly childlike in that your "solutions', 9 times out of 10, involve having your cake and eating it too. 

Leftists offer zero intellectual curiosity to anything.  Their solution to ANY intellectual curiosity towards anything that runs counter to Leftist dogma is to stomp it out and force it to be silent.  I would think that if Leftists really wanted intellectual curiosity, they'd be more tolerant of differing points of view, but they are not, not by a long shot.  EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY MUST adhere to Leftist dogma. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#23 Oh my, excuse me if I

Oh my, excuse me if I offended you delicate senses; I respectfully disagree with almost everything in that statement. Once again the poisonous simpleton rhetoric of Reagan will not die! Issues are complex; and to sell this cancerous rhetoric to young minds, is in my opinion, a trifling malady! You claim that poverty can be averted if one finishes high school, saves their money, and become celibate?

Let us look at the first of these propositions: a high school diploma will not get anyone a decent job- I saw first hand at the OWS rally thousands of college educated youngsters unemployed. One young woman held two bachelors degrees and a masters and was still unemployed.

Secondly, you act as if saving money is an easy thing for people to do. People have to pay rent, groceries, electrical, water, gas, car payment, debts, ect. One woman I met at the rally was paying for taking care of their elder parents. You do not know anyone’s situation- how dare you judge! Shame on you.

Finally, I do not find children to be a burden. So many people act as if these little ones are parasites. I will play along though. Is it not the rightwing that is always throwing a temper tantrum any time sensible people ask for sex education in schools? Is it not the rightwing always attacking people who provide the pill and condoms to teenagers? Issues are complex and so are people.

#24 One young woman held two BS degrees?

And a master's?  In what, women's studies?  international affairs? underwater basket weaving?  C'mon, Mud, fill us in. 

As for your last paragraph of asinine blathering, why should a parent not "attack people who provide the pill and condoms to teenagers"?  It's none of your business.

"I saw first hand at the OWS rally thousands of college educated youngsters".  I doubt it,  but you may have seen a dozen or two. 

And, it seems that the freeloaders have turned on themselves, with a portion of Zuccotti Park being a no-go zone, for the occuturds.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.

#25 Just like good socialist

This is perfectly predictable. What a bunch of fecal heads

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

#26 Henry Clay. The people we

Henry Clay. The people we see in the OWS video footage that the OWS people themselves make available are Mutli-tatted, long greasy haired, porrly dressed, and unbathed.

The coverage hardly shows anyone I would WISH to employ.
The tea party on the other hand.....

He is best who is trained in the severest school." -Thucydides, "History of the Peloponnesian War" (431-404 B.C.)

#27 a high school diploma will not get anyone a decent job- Read mo

Really? I had no intentions on jumping in on this but that`s either a uneducated statement or a flat out lie!!!! I DO NOT have a college degree and yet i still make over 50k a year. Explain to me how i was able to do this without an education? No need i will tell you. HARD WORK.

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8

#28 its a losing argument on his part.

I could use my own personal situation to prove the premise as false as well. But really, what's the point?

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

#29 Snobbery

As one with a college education, I find the total snobbery of Mr. Clay here to be beyond the pale. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#30 Concur.

Concur.

He is best who is trained in the severest school." -Thucydides, "History of the Peloponnesian War" (431-404 B.C.)

#31 Good for you.

We're happy you found yourself on safari, Henry.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

#32 We need some violins for poor Henry Clay

a high school diploma will not get anyone a decent job  - Really?  My father has a high school education.  My mother is a high school dropout.  Yet both are leading comfortable upper-middle-class existences right now.  The majority of people in this country only have high school educations. 

I know plenty of people without highly educated backgrounds who are doing just fine.  Many people with mere high school educations work in a trade, start their own businesses, or take other paths in this country and do just fine. 

you act as if saving money is an easy thing for people to do.  More mewling and puking from a Socialist crybaby.  You act as if you and these poor tantrum throwing children are the only ones who do these things.  I pay taxes, rent, groceries, electricity, water, internet, cable, debts, etc.  I'm not throwing a temper tantrum and demanding people feel sorry for me.  I go out and work hard and bust my ass to paty for ALL of these things.  And I make sure to throw some cash in savings just in case.  And I contribute to charitable causes and save for retirement.  I do all of this on a meager income. 

Life is a very hard thing.  Deal with it like the rest of us grownups.  Like the great poster BD says, "Life is tough - wear a cup."

Paying too much for rent?  Find roomies or get a cheaper place.  Making car payments too much for you?  Pay off your vehicle early and drive it until the wheels fall off - I haven't made a car payment in 10 years because I take care of my vehicle.  Paying too much for electricity?  Find ways to use less - I cut off my A/C and cool off my apartment via open windows and closed screens now that the weather is favorable. 

All you are doing, as far as I am concerned, is WHINING, WHINING, WHINING.  Poor f*****g baby.  I have no sympathy for 2 year olds that otherwise physically LOOK like adults. 

Is it not the rightwing that is always throwing a temper tantrum any time sensible people ask for sex education in schools? Is it not the rightwing always attacking people who provide the pill and condoms to teenagers?  You know, I used to think to myself, "What's the big deal about sex ed in schools?  There's no harm in that, is there?"  But my growing opposition to that has a more fundamental root: I think that such matters ought to be left to (gasp!) the PARENTS and how THEY and THEY ALONE choose the address the matter.  I prefer that idea rather than some ephemeral figure like a teacher or a coach providing such instruction. 

By the way...I know you firmly believe that the government is THE heart of EVERYTHING, and that nothing is possible without government...but seriously, how did humanity manage to persist the past 3 million or so years without sex ed?  How did people figure out what goes where, and the consequences/results, without sex ed? 

Issues are complex and so are people.  Not NEARLY as complex as you whine.  Solutions can be really simple. I'm not going to go whine with the "Occupy" crybabies if I think my rent is too high - I'll take my business someplace else (for one example). What makes things complex is the steadfast, utter refusal of you and your cohorts to get off of your lazy asses and get to work like the rest of us in the Real World. 
 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#33 Could not

have said it any better Unsane ty.

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8

#34 what??

You'd think you were the first charitable person on the planet for giving up your shoes. My friend, people have been doing this as a lifelong occupation far before you decided to "take a week off" and live among the homeless.

Good grief, save your "National Geographic" adventures for the kids on DKos.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

#35 Ignore him kata-

He's a classic asshat. Agent provocateur extraordinaire.

#36 I am aware.

I read several of his previous posts before replying.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012

#37 Feet of Clay

Aah, to be a man at OWS and not have to worry about being raped by your fellow occupiers! Or do you? Couldn't some of the $500,000 been used to buy the fellow some shoes?

Poor Clay, when/if he comes of the drugs he'll have to face what the OWS really is, a group of crybabies and trust fund babies.

Proud member of the 53%!

#38 Yes friends, you do not hear

Yes friends, you do not hear stories like that every day.

true, i agree. since those "stories" are likely NOT true. perhaps you can convince the movement's angry soup kitchen cooks to try harder and give more. THAT story i might believe.

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan

#39 Awesome Parody!

I don't know if the rest of the people caught it, but that really was an awesome parody! Although, I do suggest a few paragraph breaks once in a while.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court

Or Anwar al-Awlaki.

#40 Shoot the bottle throwers

The police should be authorized to shoot to immobilize anyone who throws any object at a police officer. That appears to be the only way to get these liberal morons and criminals off the streets.

#41 Killing people whom you do

Killing people whom you do not agree with? So civilized

#42 hmm I am pretty sure he said

hmm I am pretty sure he said shoot people throwing objects at the police, he even added a caveat that the police should shoot to immobilize. I didn't see a single sentence or even word that could be construed as "kill them because I disagree with them". Must be that special liberal talent that allows you to reach deep into your tortured psyche and put words in people mouth and then declare that they said something that they quite obviously didn't say.

Well you just go ahead and cuddle up to your obviously paranoid and delusional beliefs that Conservatives want to kill you. In the mean time we murderous Conservatives will continue to protect your God given right right to spew your demented pronouncements, unlike you "brothers" in arms" that wish to silence any and all dissent.

#43 That's what Obama did

"Killing people whom you do not agree with? So civilized"

That's what Obama did, did he not? Or did he agree with the Libyan Army before he started bombing them? You know what they say: Lead by example.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court

Or Anwar al-Awlaki.

#44 I blame the neo-con saber

I blame the neo-con saber rattling crowd for that. They forced Obama to be just another war-monger. If he did nothing, they would say he was weak and run against him on that. He played politics where he should have had a backbone.

#45 Well, henry mierda,

Care to enlighten all and sundry as to how those evil neo-cons "forced" poor obama to change from a dove to a hawk? Was he threatened? Isn't his paymaster Soros going to back the poor preznent on this one?

For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me.  As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.

Ian Anderson "Wind up"

#46 Interesting...

So it seems you are an anti-Semite as well as an instinctive wimp.  Who woulda thought?

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#47 No sympathy

I am quite critical of law enforcement here as many NBers know.  While I acknowledge many police officers are dedicated to the highest standards of professionalism, I also recognize that too many are nothing more than thugs and bullies who enjoy harassing and intimidating people. 

That being said, I'd never attack a police officer, if at the very least because whether they will admit it or not, they are human, and I'm not interested in attacking or killing ANYBODY. 

Therefore, I don't have any sympathy with the idiots who decide to provoke the cops, in Oakland, Atlanta...or elsewhere.  Let the cops beat the s*** out of them all if they get attacked. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#48 Henry Clay

What????? Hold on...

People not agreeing with me.

=

People throwing bottles at me attempting to injure or kill me.

Again.... what????? Did you read the posters Subject? "Shoot the bottle throwers" .... Shoot the bottle throwers .... BOTTLE THROWERS.

- shy on wax

#49 Oh, come on, Shy!

You know that people who are killed by being shot are more dead than those who have their heads bashed in or their throats cut by bottles!

#50 no where did i see a

no where did i see a reference to killing. i saw "immobilize". now you're just being......bah, nevermind. which OWS protest did you attend? i didn't know they held one in la-la land

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan

#51 Maybe the one in

Phoenix.

#52 "A police riot"?

Those of us in Boston shed few tears when this jerk was run out of town for serial plagiarism. But for Mike Barnicle to now hit his knees for the lefties signing his checks is ironic in the extreme. It was revealed that a lot of his "shoe leather" stories were in fact second hand recounting of cop stories from his brother, a member of the Boston PD homicide squad and the guys around the station house. Now that he's not in town to steal human interest copy, this ingrate jumps the fence and becomes a born-again civil libertarian. I wonder what his MSNBC pals think of his wife, among the top executives at Bank of America? Or does it depend on whom the evil bankers support politically? These people are shameless.

#53 I think Mika remembers how

I think Mika remembers how Barnicle slandered the woman who called the Cambridge police, so she's leery to jump. I give her credit for learning.

The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan

#54 I have a question

RE: police...have any of you heard of the term agents provocateurs?

If not, educate yourself with this...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928

And type that two word phrase into Startpage (not Google...THEY TRACK YA!)

The police don't' deserve the bashing, but the government does for creating a police state all in the name of fake terror wars financed by multi-national corporations all in violating Posse Comitatus. And if you neoconservatives don't know that phrase, Startpage that as well.

The reason the media is corrupt?  Two words...OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD!

 

MOCKINGBIRD - The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA

#55 Thanks, Bob.

You can take the tinfoil off your head now.

#56 Three simple words:

Spamming Conspiro Paulbot.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

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