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#1 When the field comes down to

When the field comes down to take the green flag at the Capital City 400 presented by Virginia is for Lovers (wow, that was a mouth full) at Richmond International Speedway it will be led by a battery powered Ford Focus. According to Ford the thing gets 100 miles to the charge. That is probably at highway speed. The pace car has to get the field up to speed after each caution. It is going to see speeds higher than 90mph or it will be ran off the track. They better hope there are very few cautions or this thing may run out of juice.

GM can't get rid of their Volts so I wonder what makes Ford think they can do any better. Obama is determined to force crappy cars like this down our throats. Give me something that has some HP so I don't get killed entering the interstate.

I've been a fan of NASCAR ever since my dad took me to my first race at Hickory at age 6. NASCAR is fast becoming one of my least favorite sports with all this PC and green crap. Tim Flock and Jocko Flocko are rolling over in their graves from what NASCAR has become

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/​04/25/​ford-releases-photos-of-focus-e​lectric-nascar-pace-car/

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#2 I agree, Rick.

NASCAR should add a couple of letters to their name to make it more accurate. PCNASCAR. (That would be pronounced Pissy NASCAR)

I have several friends in the upper reaches of that business, and I continually harangue them about why they seem to be kissing the RBFSOB's ass, and they say that it may be the only way they can stay in business.

I really expect in the not-to-distant future to see every team field a battery powered (or sail powered?) car in a special edition race for Boy BlahBlah to lawd over.

The Boy is a cancer on this country's prostate, and I have a feeling that if it isn't removed soon, we will permanently suffer the consequences.

Comrade Bubba

#3 The bread and butter of the

The bread and butter of the sport was us good ole boys in the south. We helped to make it what it is today. NASCAR has forgotten us. There is not a driver out there today that could drive a car like Petty, Pearson or Earnhart. They have an A/C system and power steering. When they step out of the car they look like they have gone for a Sunday drive. No sweat or grime all over the face. They don't beat and bang on each other like they used to. If they do they get hauled to the NASCAR trailer. I remember the short tracks like Richmond, Bristol and Martinsville where not one of the cars didn't have some kind of damage to it at the end of the day. I haven't forgot how NASCAR abandoned the tracks like Rockingham, North Wilkesboro and pretty much Darlington. The Labor Day race at Darlington was a big thing. You could go to Myrtle Beach on Friday night Saturday and Sunday and stop at Darlington on the way home on Monday.

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#4 And they used real cars you

And they used real cars you could actually buy at the dealer. Well mostly. Mopar was really good about making the parts available at the dealer. These days its nothing but a formula car, everything regulated and the dimensions and frames the same.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark

#5 DMan

I think the quota used to be 1500 models of the car, plus the basic engine that the driver was running, had to be available to buy at a dealer. That was the only reason the Plymouth Superbird and Dodge Daytona ever made it to the street.

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

#6 Bubba

I've wanted to remove two letters for years now. Why is the SC still there when the cars are not even close to looking "stock?" When there was a requirement for cars allowed to run being based on what was sold in the dealerships, it was like being able to drive the same thing as your favorite driver.

If they are building them from the ground up and not a single part looks anything like what's on the street, then stop calling it Stock Car racing and stop saying that there are Chevy's, Fords and so on running in the races.

I just shed a tear thinking about the Petty Plymouth.

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

#7 Glad to know that you and Rick are as old as I am!

My favorite driver of all time was Fireball Roberts. Unfortunately he lost his life early to his sport.

Yeah, I remember the good old days even before the BIG races.  Every little town in the South was probably within less than an hour drive of some dirt track, at least. You could go to races damned near every weekend night of the year somewhere.

Every little town had its local "hero." Ours happened to be the local Chief of Police, too. All of the kids thought that he was so cool!

The racers actually drove their race cars to the track, opened the trunk, and unloaded their racing tires already on hubs. They would haul out a jack and swap the street tires for the racing tires, and they were ready to go. Their "pit crews" usually consisted of their best buddy mechanics, and other assorted drinking buddies. Funny how they always had some Daisy Mae looking babes hanging out with the crew, too, mixing drinks for them.

I'm still not sure to this day if they were drinking the same thing that they were mixing with the gasoline in the car, but I suspect they were.

NASCAR turning all of that into a glamorous "sport" kind of made me sad when it was happening. Now I know why.

Here's to the "good old boys." Kick the tires. light the fires. First guy on the track has the pole.

I hate liberals.

Comrade Bubba

#8 I just missed Fireball

It was probably 1968 or 69 when I heard my first NASCAR race on the radio. I was living in West Virginia and we had no tracks other than some 1/4 and 1/3 mile dirt tracks about 60 miles away. If I climbed on top of the garage and wrapped extra wire around the portable radio I could pick up WBT 1140 out of Charlotte.

My driver was Richard Petty. I had no idea what he looked like or any of the others for that matter. I just remember him from that first race. David Pearson, Cale and Leroy, Benny Parsons, Coo Coo Marlin, Junior Johnson, Bobby and Donnie were the drivers of my youth.

I stopped following most sports when I went into the Army. When I did pay attention again there was all kinds of changes that I'd never heard of and it just didn't seem like the balls to the wall driving of the old days. I liked Bill Elliot because he crossed the divide of the two eras. I had stopped following NASCAR during Earnhardt's prime.

In the effort to make NASCAR a business and the drivers corporate billboards, the races just don't have the same excitement. You know that no one is going to tow their car home behind a station wagon full of tires and parts.

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

#9 Tires. parts and kids in the

Tires. parts and kids in the station wagon.

I lived about 35 miles northwest of Charlotte. We couldn't get WBT after the sun went down. Still can't. Years ago they bought an FM station in Rock Hill just so they could broadcast to that dead zone at nights. I can pick it up just fine here in eastern NC at nights.

As a kid I liked to listen to KDKA and Bob Prince braodcast the Pirates. Sometimes I could pick up KMOX out of St Louis and listen to Jack Buck and the Cardinals. I don't think many people listen to baseball on the radio like we used to. I remember WWVA and the West Virginia barn dance. As best as I can remember there was a preacher come on after that preaching hell fire and brimstone.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

#10 You young'uns had radio?

:-))

Comrade Bubba

#11 I don't know about them

I don't know about them youngens. In 1969 I was a senoir in HS.

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#12 Oh hell, you're a baby!!

I graduated from HS in '58.  (That's 1958!)

I had been back in the CONUS for about a year.

Comrade Bubba

#13 Graduated in 58?

I was almost a year old!

We had electricity, indoor plumbing AND shoes!

Rick, we were on top a hill and as I mentioned, I had to get on top the garage roof to pick it up. Reception was scratchy and intermittent, but any AM station further than 15 miles from us was also.

At night I could pull in WWVA, WRVA Richmond, WCFL & WLS Chicago, WBZ Boston and every now and then WHO Des Moines.

My Grandad was a Cincinnati Reds fan, so naturally I was too. Bad news was we were right on the line with picking up KDKA and most the kids in school were Pirates fans. For some reason I still don't remember, I was on a Texas kick and saw Dallas get beat by Green Bay the 2nd year in a row for the trip to the Super Bowl. I was a Cowboys fan growing up. I severed all ties when they dumped Tom Landry.

Big reason for liking Dallas was former West Virginia stand out Chuck Howley at Linebacker. And yes, I liked the Lakers while Jerry West was there. There's only so many West Virginians that made it to the big time, so they got our support.

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

#14 '58 Newsbubba?

Now I'll always associate you with the Edsel.

Jer

#15 I remember when Fireball was

I remember when Fireball was killed. Ned Jarrett tried to save him. I had a great uncle, James Jay Jarrett that was into genology when nobody had heard of it. He did a history of the Jarretts. Most our line but he told me that Ned was like an eight cousin to me. When he died all his papers were moved to his sister in law's house. When she died the papers were thrown out. I didn't realize what a treasure was in those papers in laterr years. I wish I'd have listened more to uncle Jay. I guess there is racing in the blood.

I parked cars at Hickory to get into the races for free. Really pissed me off when Ned bought the track and paved it. We had a saying. Dirt was for racing, asphalt was getting you there. At that time NASCAR ran two races there so I got to see many of the great drivers. Most of the time Richard Petty would smoke the field. I got to see Buddy Baker, Bobby Issac and Jmuior Johnson win a few. Because I was parking cars many times I saw the drivers driving there own cars with the race car on the trailer. Those were some great day. Oh yeah, I also forgot. Hickory sat next door to Catawba County cemetary. If there was a race going on and a funeral pulled in the race was stopped until the family left the grave site.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

#16 Why America, as founded, may very well be lost

We may or may not survive the presidency of Barack Hussein Obama, but there is no way in Hell we will surive the stoopid sheeple electorate that put him into office.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

#17 Too true, Dave

The problem began in full force in the 60s, when the campus agitators were not thrown into prison, Instead, they were accepted by the college administrators out of fear. The rabble then took over the education of the future minds of America and took them right to the gutter level.

If anyone hasn't seen the movie, Idiocracy, watch it if you get the chance. I fear we are already closer to that than I want to admit.

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

#18 It don't help when we Supreme

It don't help when we Supreme Court justices that could care less about the Constitution. They want to come up with some unknown internattional laws. If the Chicago jesus is not put out of office we are definately done for. Imagine what one more country hating justice would do to the court. The first thing to go would be the right to keep and bear arms. Most liberals wouldn't care if they did. After that the rest start to fall one by one. I don't think they'll even care when the 1st amendment is gone. They don't want us to have our speech anyway.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

#19 Bulllying Christians is A OK

I saw this at Twitchy, Dan Savage, for some unknown reason, was speaking to high school kids about journalism when he went off on the Bible using profanity.

http://twitchy.com/2012/04/28/anti-bullying-speaker-dan-savage-heckles-h...

Bravo to the kids who got up and walked out.

Proud member of the 53%!

#20 Ken Jennings

For those who don't know the name, he is the all-time champ of the TV game show, Jeopardy.  I had forgotten, but noticed something a year or so back.  I was watching a rerun of his first win in that long streak of victories, on the Game Show Network....yes, there is such a channel.

In that Final Jeopardy, the answer was something about an woman, Olympic sprinter.  The correct question was, "Who is Marion Jones."  Jennings question was, "Who was Jones."  Anyone that watches Jeopardy for any length of time knows that in Double and Final Jeopardy, a last name only is not an acceptable response.  Only in this case it was.

Ken Jennings may or may not be a very smart guy.  But he should never have gotten his first win.  That game was a fraud and he might have been set up by the producers for that string of victories.

What does this have to do with anything?  Probably nothing, but I'm at the age now that when I do remember something I have to speak about it or it gets lost in the dustbin I call my mind mists of time.

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

#21 "What does this have to do with anything?"

Allow me to take a stab at that, Tug.

This country just elected a RBFSOB American hating, non-citizen, enemy combatant against capitalism, the Constitution, our entire system of government, and a closet Islamist mother frocker.

Maybe your subconscious took you back to other frauds who have been foisted on us.

The worst part is, he may get reelected and surrender this country totally to foreign powers.

Comrade Bubba

#22 Mother of the year, two candidates

On April 1st 4 worthless POSs walked into the Hustle Mart in Farmville, NC and murdered 3 store employees. One of those employees was only 17. Pitt County Sheriff Neil Elks vowed to charge everyone involved. He recently arrested the girl friend of one of the scum bags for harboring them. What he did Thursday was masterful. He arrested the mother of 14 year involved and charged her with neglect. She had told sheriff's investigators she hadn't seen her son for 2 weeks. What in the hell was she doing? Any mother would get worried and try to find out where her child was after a few days. I don't think the sheriff is finished yet rounding up any scum that was connected any way to the crime. To Sheriff Elks I give an AMEN without being asked to do it

http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/BREAKING__Juveniles_Mother_In_Farmvil...

Here is one that is even better. A homeowner sends another POS Tango Uniform. The mother says he was always messing up and getting into fights at school, things a nomral child does. Are you kidding me. After watching the video let's vote on which one should be nominated to mother of the year.

http://moonbattery.com/?p=11101

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

#23 Hats off to Captain Paula

Hats off to Captain Paula Dance in regards to the Farmville case!

#24 I know everyone remembers Baracka's "gutsy call", right?

Turns out it wasn't so gutsy, after all.  Well, it was, if you're the admiral that Baracka was prepared to hang out to dry if things went wrong.

Time magazine, of all people, published a CIA memo that got out, showing that Baracka decided that "The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven’s hands".  So, the shots of the Situation Room were window dressing for his campaign.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.

#25 I really want to know who is

I really want to know who is in charge of this country. Is it Valerie Jarrett, Axlerod, Holder, Soros? His pattern while a senator was to vote present. I believe he is still doing that today. I know he had to sign off on it but it was Seblius that brought up the contraseptives in Obamacare and she is calling the shots as the rules are written.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

#26 Rick, you know the answer to that.

Baracka is in charge, unless there's a chance that something could blow up in his face, then he was for it, before he was against it.

This memo is Baracka's administration in a nutshell, take the credit for that which others do, but be ready to throw them under the bus, if things don't go the way you think they should. 

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.

#27 I wish he'd hurry up and

I wish he'd hurry up and throw Holder under the bus so we could get some answers on Fast and Furious. Heard last night that Sheryl Atkins of CBA had requested some documents from the Injustice Dept on F&F through FIOA and all she got was blank pages.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

#28 Gutsy call, my foot!

He slept on it!!

IOW, he put off the decision until the next day!!

How the hell is that gutsy?

And how does Bill (no, we don't want bin Laden, thanks for asking) Clinton, of all people!! -have the unmitigated gall  to  say that Romney wouldn't have made the call? Based on what?  Reading his cigar ashes?

Still trying to be relevant.  He's another one I don't EVER need to hear another word from!

#29 Thank God he DID deliberate over a decision fraught with

enormous risks and which was opposed by several of his top advisers. Even the gutless partisan Ben Shapiro concedes Obama made the right call. And if this President had attempted to micromanage the operation from the opposite side of the world instead of correctly granting the field commander operational control, his critics would have hyperventilated with indignation.

This gratuitous and groundless slam only serves to discredit legitimate criticisms regarding the myriad vulnerabilities of the administration.

By the way, as far as Clinton/bin Laden, you apparently prefer to accept the claim of a representative of one of the most despotic and terrorist-supportive countries in the world rather than the words of US government officials and the findings of the 911 Commission.

Jer

#30 Jer

I think the president, whoever it was at the time, should have made the decision regarding the killing of Bin Laden before he was found. He should have been ready to act. We had been searching for Bin Laden for years, what was the purpose, to kill Bin Laden or to monitor him?

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#31 Rad...

That ignores the locus of the target, the tactical obstacles, the political and diplomatic concerns regarding the "host" country, operational and logistical risks, etc. There were more considerations than simply "we finally found him; kill him".

Jer

#32 Jer

Is that what delayed the decision? I thought he was deciding if he should kill Bin Laden or not.

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#33 Rad...

Absolutely. Our relations with Pakistan have been tenuous at best. Imagine the repercussions in that country--as well as here and in other parts of the world--resulting from a mission failure.

Jer

#34 Funny Jer. I seem to remember Obama saying during his

campaign that "he would send U.S. forces into Pakistan without the country's approval." So it doesn't seem as though he had to delve too deeply into that decision-making process as late as last year.

Guess who said this: "You can think big, but remember, you shouldn't always say everything you think if you're running for president, because it has consequences around the world."

Hilary Clinton.

And guess who said this: "If we have actionable intelligence on al Qaeda operatives, including [Osama] bin Laden, and President Musharraf cannot act, then we should. That's just common sense."

Barack Obama. Common sense. Not really deep thought. Just plain 'ole common sense.

To that, someone else said this: "Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. It's already the policy of the United States -- has been for four years -- that there's actionable intelligence, we would go into Pakistan."

Yeah. That was Joe Biden.

The date? August 7th, 2007. It was the right call, but not one requiring deep, deep consideration; at least according to Obama. And Obama acted on an 8 year old GWB policy when he made that common sense decision. Let's keep things in perspective.

#35 Ben Shapiro calls 'em as he sees 'em, Jer, ---

and when you call him a "gutless partisan", it is obvious you have confused him with your idol, Obama.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

#36 How can I guess if you tell me the answers?

I believe it probable such statements were based upon the presumption bin Laden was most likely holed up in a remote cave in the mountainous region just across the Afghanistan border rather than living in a million dollar compound in a heavily populated city near the capital of Pakistan.

As for perspective, you might also recall Bush oscillating between thinking bin Laden was dead to not thinking about him at all.

To YOUR credit, you have given Obama credit for his actions vis a vis bin Laden. Many on the right, from Limbaugh on down, would rather eat nails than give him credit for anything.

Jer

#37 Because I suspect you rarely actually click the links

and I won't be up all night to answer them for you. I'm not sure how you rationalize the cave theory other than as unverifable rebuttal. HC also noted, if you read the CNN piece, that Pakistan's nukes complicate the issue and whether ObL was 2 miles or 100 miles inside Pakistan, they remained a nuclear nation.

I'm also not clear on your assumption that W thought pursuit was unnecessary given the policy of incursion that was clearly in place, according to big Joe B. Why have a policy to go into Pakistan to kill a dead guy?

Regardless, the decision was the right one, even if it was actually Bush's.

#38 On what, exactly, do you base your suspicion that I "rarely

actually click the links"?

I read the part about nukes, but not the part about Hillary noting that "whether ObL was 2 miles or 100 miles inside Paskistan", etc. Where is it?

If Obama's policy regarding incursion into Pakistan was identical to Bush's, why was there such a thundering outcry at NB accusing Obama of irresponsibly threatening to "invade" our ally? Did you miss those threads?

Jer

#39 I was making an analogy

You said you figured the only reason Bush would consider going after ObL in Pakistan was because the prevailing thought was that he was likely in a cave, just inside the border. So I tried to ask what difference two miles or 100 miles would make given their nuclear capabilities, especially since Hilary seemed to define that issue as a major one.

I also don't think official US policy is either derived or persuaded by the pages NB. And I didn't say Obama's policy was identical, I merely pointed out that his policy was just another in the long line of extensions from the Bush Administration regarding the war on terror.

Obama's good at that. He ended the war in Iraq via a document signed by the Bush Administration two years earlier. He claims an increase in domestic oil production via policies derived by the Bush Administration. He claims the two-year long stagnation in the economy and high unemployment are a result of policies by the Bush Administration. Oh, and just like Reagan, he wants to raise taxes on the wealthy. Sounds to me like this guy hasn't had an original thought since 1978.

I'm guessing you rarely click the links because you often fail to respond to them directly in your replies. Except maybe to read the byline, then make a comment based solely on that.

Sorry my last post was so vague; I was using my phone at the time and it's much too cumbersome for a detailed response.

#40 I don't want to let go of the

I don't want to let go of the story of Obama eating dog.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s320x320/522997_447696228...

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

#41 Rick

I love it!

Proud member of the 53%!

#42 The Correspondents' Dinner: shallow and obnoxious!

Did anyone catch the guest entrances for the White House Correspondents' Dinner tonight? (A respected TV network such as C-SPAN should have stuck to the main event rather than the entrances!) It was sickening to see camera people and "reporters" drooling over empty-headed "celebrities" as they mugged for the cameras. Who gives a flying fig over the cast of "Modern Family" (I've never seen the show so I don't know who they are), Lindsay Lohan and Kim Kardashian? Then, of course, Ears arrived and displayed a vile smirk that I wished I could have puked on. This event has become as trivial as the Oscars, a lame excuse for vain politicians and "celebrities" to preen in expensive formal wear.

#43 'Vile smirk' is a very good

'Vile smirk' is a very good descrption, Mary Louise!! I have seen it many times.............arrogantly and condascendingly and sanctemoniously and petulantly and forebodingly VILE!!! I have heard theories about Boy Baraka being the 'anti-Christ', and although I wouldn't want to give him credit for being that much of a heavyweight (hell, in actuality the guy is a total lightweight, except for the fact that he hit the bigtime!!), he definitly has some devil-like characteristics running through his veins.

#44 Our classless president....

opens his routine at the Correspondents Dinner with a toilet flush.

And the dignity of the office takes another hit.

#45 Classless (Boy Baraka and

Classless (Boy Baraka and Moooooooooooochelle) and clueless (Joe Plugs Bite-Me).............what a combo!!!! And we wonder why people despise the USA??? Hell, if I lived in some foreign country and I saw this, I'd feel the same way!!! Wait a minute, I live in ASIA!!! So, yeah................I despise the government too!!!

#46 The tank ain't big enough

Everyone's climbing in it for o'bama. Want to know what caused March's poor employment numbers? Global Warming. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-job-growth-in-april-likely-on-slower...

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Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court

#47 Wow! This is gonna be talked about lot!

Medical examiners in Los Angeles are investigating the possible poisoning death of one of their own officials who may have worked on the case of Andrew Breitbart, the conservative firebrand who died March 1, the same day Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced probable cause for forgery in President Obama’s birth certificate.

Read more: http://times247.com/articles/breitbart-s-coroner-dead-from-suspected-poi...

#48 A "WND exclusive"

I think that says it all.

Jer

#49 We'll see, I guess.

I'm not a WND reader. I saw this on twitter and the link was from the Washington Times who republished a part of the piece. But I'm curious, if it comes from WND, does that mean that the coroner is in fact, still alive? Or does it mean that he definitively did not work on Andrew? Pretty sure the piece says the death has been deemed suspicious, not that Barack Obama poisoned him.

One more... If the death of this coroner turns out to be a criminal act, will you change your opinion of WND?

#50 My opinion that WND is the epicenter of fanatical and irrational

"birtherism"?

No.

Jer

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