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Douglas Brinkley: Bill Clinton Is a 'Folk Figure in America' Like 'Babe Ruth or Buffalo Bill'

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Liberal presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said Monday, "Bill Clinton’s really become a folk figure in America."

Participating in an oftentimes hysterical Hardball segment about how the former President will help Barack Obama get reelected, Brinkley added, "He’s more like Babe Ruth or Buffalo Bill than a politician" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: I don’t know how you improve on that, Doug. He has that touch that they’re looking for in the presidency right now.

DOUGLAS BRINKLEY, PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Yeah, he’s going to be the super envoy, the, he’s going to do an incredible job. Bill Clinton’s really become a folk figure in America. He’s more like Babe Ruth or Buffalo Bill than a politician, and just going as Eugene said to college campuses imagine in Pennsylvania and Ohio, or even at the convention just being standing there with Barack Obama.

He has a very high approval rating, Bill Clinton, and his post-presidency here has been quite remarkable. We still have his wife Hillary Clinton in as Secretary of State, so the Clintons are very important. They remind people of what a good economy was when the Democrats had eight years.

Before we get to host Chris Matthews' equally hysterical response, it was fascinating that during this sickeningly sycophantic segment which included the Washington Post's Eugene Robinson, nobody pointed out the extremely obvious: Bill and Hillary with all of their star power couldn't beat a totally unqualified junior senator from Illinois in the previous presidential election.

I guess it escaped their minds such as they are.

As for Brinkley's bona fides as a historian, I guess he forgot that the Republicans took over Congress in 1995 meaning the Democrats only controlled things for two years under Clinton.

Why should a historian be expected to know that?

But there were more chuckles to come:

MATTHEWS: So well said. So well said. So we’re talking about the past, the present, and the future. The past looks damn good right now. We had great unemployment numbers. We had a growth, we had the [unintelligible]. Everything was great, right? In fact, when the Republicans say restoration, they really mean go back to this guy, not to W. Nobody wants to go back to W.

Yeah, everything was great - even income inequality which according to the AFL-CIO hit a peak under Clinton.

Funny how this never comes up when liberal media members wax nostalgic for the '90s.

Equally humorous was how these very folks that bash former President George W. Bush for the real estate bubble and subsequent collapse always conveniently forget how much of the Clinton economy was dependent on the tech bubble and how terrible things got when it burst.

This would all be laughable if the network we were watching was Comedy Central and not MSNBC.


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Comments

#1 Prissy Pap Smear said "We had a growth".

Yeah, Chrissy, but it was a small growth, and Monica took care of it.  None of us knew that you were peeking the whole time, Chrissy.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.

#2 Bill Clinton is like Babe

Bill Clinton is like Babe Ruth or Buffalo Bill?

Wow! You can't make this stuff up. Douglas Brinkley made his own parody.

#3 Much more like JFK, I would say

But that would be far closer to the truth than Douglas Brinkley up to handling.

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

#4 I'm thinking

more like Pecos Bill.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecos_Bill

If you're not getting flak, you're not over the target.

#5 I was thinking

more like Dr. Ruth or Buffalo Bill's syphilitic hound dog...

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

#6 Babe Ruth?

Ron Jeremy maybe.

#7 You mean der Schlickmeister

You mean der Schlickmeister is hairy like a rug??? Let's not be insultin' (Obamaspeak) the Hedgehog now!!!

#8 Dang!

You read my mind! (which would take less than a second)

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

#9 in case you're not...

I am embarrassed for you that you two know who Ron Jeremy is.

#10 ⇒ Here's an escape hatch

I think I saw him on late night infomercials with some really "classy looking" girls, trying to tell me about something big "down there"

All I knew was that those girls were really excited about "down there"

And that's all I have to say about that.

#11 Ahhhhhhhhh c'mon, Mid - do

Ahhhhhhhhh c'mon, Mid - do YOU know who he is, or was that just a stab in the dark???

And Cool....................yeah, I believe you!!! Hahahahahahaha!!!

#12 Mid

I spent 22 years on active duty in the Army and Navy, prior to Tailhook. I would be a functional idiot (which some claim anyway) if I didn't know who he was.

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

#13 Naah

PeeWee Herman

#14 Like

"Like"

If you're not getting flak, you're not over the target.

#15 ????

More like a BABY Ruth--very Nutty or a Buffalo Burger--ground and cooked

#16 Oh my

this one is just too hard to resist, are we talking th Buffalo Bill that "skins his humps"? Or Babe Ruth that was so proific with his "bat"? Oooh. This one just lends itself brain overload.................

#17 whoops

whoops

"This is not your mother's Democratic Party"--Andrew Breitbart, CPAC, February 2012

#18 Historian Brink

Brimkley is on the brink of stupid insanity. Clinton was and never will be a hero- The rape of Juanita Broderick, Monica and cigars in the White House and with convicted pal Jeff Epstein "hooking" up with underage girls in Europe.

Death Before Dishonor

#19 Folk Figure?

Nah. Tall Tale figure fits a more accurate description of Mr. Bill.

"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets". - Robert DeNiro, Taxi Driver (1976).

#20 Legendary? Legendary liar and

Legendary? Legendary liar and practitioner of satyriasis, perhaps. Other than that, nope. To be fair, though, Slick Willie is a legend in his own mind. So I suppose that counts a little.

"This is not your mother's Democratic Party"--Andrew Breitbart, CPAC, February 2012

#21 ring around the ....

No song, no poem, no ballad. Sorry Mr Clinton, your contribution to folk lore will be, at best, an ode to stain removers

Hakapelita!

#22 Maybe...

The Spotted Blue Dress Special

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

#23 Or how about

"In Chinese, 'Nuclear Missile Secrets' Means 'Two Million Bucks In Campaign Cash'"?

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

#24 Dead on target as usual, Noel!

....during this sickeningly sycophantic segment which included the Washington Post's Eugene Robinson, nobody pointed out the extremely obvious: Bill and Hillary with all of their star power couldn't beat a totally unqualified junior senator from Illinois in the previous presidential election.

I laughed out loud when I read that!

And if they can't remember that, how do you expect them to remember the tech bubble of the 90's?

 

 

#25 Agreed

A major facet of Bill Clinton's post-Presdiency is to re-write his legacy. Clinton takes credt for a balance budget and welfare reform, even though these were Republican initiatives on Capitol Hill. And at that time, leftist Dems were furious with him for signing them into law.

The white-washing of his legacy (not to be confused with White Water) is being accomplished with the help of clown historians like Brinkley, who is not only an enthusiastic supporter, but easily intimidated by the Left whenever he applies some objectivity.

Brinkley's suggestion that Clinton is now a "folk figure" is ridiculous.

They are still swooning to image of the Clintons, and ignoring the realities. That's why they want Hillary to run, even though (as noted) she ran a horrible campaign.

#26 Well, I prefer to remember Bill Clinton - in this manner:

Not only did his economy - the one that the media holds up as a God-send -  the Enron era dot.com bubble of exceptional corporate fraud, greed and corruption come crashing down in March of 2000 - he left us with the housing bubble.

Oct. 2000 - HUD ANNOUNCES NEW REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE $2.4 TRILLION IN MORTGAGES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR 28.1 MILLION FAMILIES

How'd both of those turn out?

(;~/ gary

PS - Actually, perhaps Live Aid founder and humanitarian, Bob Geldof, summed up Clinton best [and he said this while praising President George W Bush], "Clinton was a good guy, but he did fuck all."

#27 Clinton is a folk figure

in the way that Charles Keating or a member of the Donner party is.

For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me.  As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.

Ian Anderson "Wind up"

#28 Well, the Bambino had some

Well, the Bambino had some pretty disgusting habits, and Buffalo Bill certainly dealt with a lot of bullsh*t, so maybe those are two valid comparisons.

#29 Round two - would a true folk hero..

allow CS gas, banned by the Geneva Conventions, to be used in an attack on a building on US soil, with innocent children inside? Who, incidentally, were incinerated? Would a folk hero not at least request the resignation of his attorney general who admiited fault in the botched handling and the ensuing carnage?

Would a folk hero appoint Chinese spies to positions that carried high level security clearances that were supposed to require congressional approval - in exchange for campaign contributions? Then cover it up using corrupt Democratic congressmen, while dozens of implicated witnesses fled the country?

Would a folk hero use an intern easily young enough to be his daughter, for sexual gratification in the West Wing, then lie about it to a federal judge (who used to be one of his own law students)? Then refer to the young woman as "that woman", and have his henchmen plant stories in the compliant press that the young woman was delusional?

Would a folk hero collect enormous speaking fees after leaving office, and amass a staggering net-worth, after biting his lip and telling the poor that he feels their pain?

Would an American folk hero, be credibly accused of rape?

Just asking..

Greggy (Diogenes)

#30 Mr. Brinkley

You are on to something here but, I don`t think the word "FOLK" is the word you were looking for. HUMM, another journalistic error. I guess you and your comrades just can`t do or say anything correctly.

NVRAT

#31 More like Jack the Ripper.

More like Jack the Ripper.

#32 So that Bubba lied under oath and

was impeached, no problem?! What a bunch of losers.

hbnolikeee

#33 You and your crabbed middle class values...

For a liberal Democrat elitist, lying under oath could be a badge of honor. Of course, they lie all the time; but how often does one get to do it under oath? And then get impeached??? Oooo, wow.

At this rate, you will never make it into the circles of the creme de la slime.

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

#34 Was he being a "folk figure"

Was he being a "folk figure" when he was getting political cash contributions from Chinese monks afterwhich he gave missile / rocket technology to the Chinese?

Or maybe it was all those dead people around him...I just can't quite remember...

"It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country"......Will Durant

#35 Wee Willie

ACK
ACK
ACK
ACK
ACK

Sorry my gag reflex kicked in reading the article.
Got to run to get some tissues to clean the computer screen.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

#36 Well.....

Maybe he meant that he was like the Buffalo Bill from the Silence of the Lambs movie......

#37 Brinkleys Dad David

I wish David Brinkely were around to kick his sons butt.


#38 I bubbb

I love when he almost mentions the internet bbble and catches himself. Bubba polls so well in the media,Bubba is probably so thankful he never had Pelosi for Speaker

#39 I have to admitt . . . . . . .

I agree with the Buffalo Bill comparison.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQb2m6VJ-eo

#40 What did "Historian" Brinkley think of Bill Clinton in 2008?

Did he hold the same views as his liberal media brethren who all proclaimed how much of a liability Bill Clinton was to his wife Hillary's campaign?

Remember?

In the media's service of Barack Obama in 2008, in their zeal to aid him in every way imaginable, the liberal media attacked Bill Clinton as a huge liability to his wife's election campaign, even going so far as basically telling him in no uncertain terms to just go away and forget campaigning for her. When that didn't work, they brought out the big guns and called him a racist.

#41 Babe Ruth?

More like Hughey D Long without any of the Kingfish's endearing qualities.

#42 American Folk Hero?

I'm thinking more along the lines of Bonny and Clyde or Mad Dog Coll, Machine Gun Kelly, Pretty Boy Floyd. Those media created hero's. Maybe I should throw in Huey Long, now that's more like what Clinton is like.

#43 Kreepy Karpis comes to

Kreepy Karpis comes to mind.................and he could also be compared favorably to Boy Barry, who is about as creepy as anyone I could imagine!!!

#44 Leave it to the Main Stream

Leave it to the Main Stream to paint a man like "President Clinton a "Folk Figure in America", the only people who'll believe it are the Useful Idiots. He a legend in his own mind, and theirs.


#45 Not Really

Not really, Doug. You see Babe Ruth and Buffalo Bill where fairly honest and respected members of the American culture. Bill Clinton will always be remembered for "Cigars" an "Blue Dresses" and "Crooked fingers" only the sick minds of the far left would concider him as "folk lore" or even respected.

#46 Rapist, Misogynist, and Adulterer

Do the terms rapist, misogynist, serial adulterer come to mind? How about serial liar (to a grand jury no less).?

#47 Spelling and pronunciation were never Brinkley's strong suit.

It's spelled f**k.

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