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Bozell Column: HBO's Palin Pollution

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Sarah Palin’s top aides held a conference call to denounce the forthcoming HBO movie “Game Change,” which like any ultraliberal media production, knocks Palin as a mentally imbalanced moron. Reporters are already underlining the Palin aides haven’t seen the movie.

But isn’t that the point? As Pat Buchanan once said about another subject, “Does one need to lift the manhole cover to know what’s below?” Did the Clinton team wait to see the movie before begging ABC to kill “Path to 9/11"? Did the Kennedy team wait to see the miniseries “The Kennedys” before getting it demoted to the Reelz Channel? The Palin folks can be pretty certain – especially since the trailer itself announces it’s a hit job.

Just see the rave review of Baltimore TV critic David Zurawik, who has seen this transparent propaganda, and the game is over. “In a rational world, this film will help guarantee that Sarah Palin will never be elected to any major office again,” he asserts triumphantly. Zurawik lines up just a few snippets of the Palin-bashing he relished.

1. McCain strategist (and Palin-bashing media darling) Steve Schmidt (played by Woody Harrelson) offers this analysis of the McCain-Palin ticket: "This wasn't a campaign. It was a bad reality show."

2. More than one adviser raises the possibility of Palin being mentally ill. And some of the actions and words attributed to her in the film lend credence to that smear. Zurawik adds, “I can’t wait to hear the self-serving howls on Fox News when they see how Roger Ailes' million-dollar analyst mistake is depicted in the film.”

3. Standing onstage on election night when it’s all over, McCain says privately to Palin: "You are one of the leaders of the party now. Don't let yourself get co-opted by Limbaugh and the other extremists. They'll destroy the party if you let them."

4. Zurawik loved “how deftly the film uses documentary evidence to show Palin's incredible ignorance of foreign and even national affairs. Yes, the Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson interviews are front and center -- and amplified. And Palin looks even more uninformed, dazed, confused and silly because the filmmakers share the point of view of senior McCain advisers like Schmidt who literally moan in agony as Palin infamously starts talking about the geography of Alaska and Russia.”

The film-makers use real footage of Katie and then cut in Julianne Moore’s Fake Palin. Other reviews note that Steve Schmidt’s actual Palin-trashing, “Game Change” book-promoting  interview on “60 Minutes” is the exclamation point at the end of the film. HBO is merging their leftist “docudrama” with real liberal-bias “news” clips to leave one unmissable point: never vote for Sarah Palin. Ever. For anything.

The last HBO docudrama from this team of director Jay Roach and screenwriter Danny Strong was “Recount,” which made heroes out of Al Gore’s aides and lawyers in 2000 as they tried to change the Florida election results. One reviewer summed it up as “a screechy example of liberal Hollywood condescension,” and “the film's flair for exaggeration is as flabbergasting as it is embarrassing.”   

It should be safe to assume that HBO launched this hatchet job into production with the notion that Palin was going to run for president. (She’s still hinting that she’d love to be picked if the GOP has a brokered convention.) This whole enterprise reeks like a super PAC ad, complete with a pile of Obama-supporting actors and an Obama-bundler as executive producer – Tom Hanks.

The film is called “Game Change,” after the book with the same title. But in the actual book, when does Sarah Palin really appear? In Chapter 20, titled “Sarahcuda,” on page 353. When the book came out in early 2010, the hottest backstage tidbits were about Obama. Harry Reid praised Barack Obama’s political appeal as a "light-skinned" black man with "no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one." Ted Kennedy was furious at Bill Clinton after Clinton sneered that Obama was so inexperienced that "a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee."

HBO had no interest in hiring actors to smear Obama or Reid or Clinton. How about the relationship of John and Elizabeth Edwards, which is clearly ripe for cinematic exploration/exploitation? HBO ignored how Edwards staffers told the authors Mrs. Edwards made them feel like “battered spouses.” In brief, the authors wrote: “What the world saw in Elizabeth: a valiant, determined, heroic everywoman. What the Edwards insiders saw: an abusive, intrusive, paranoid, condescending crazywoman.”

But HBO wants to paint the Democrats as the valiant heroes, and paint the Republicans as the paranoid crazy women. Nobody needs to wait until March to wonder whether HBO is ridiculous when it puts out a statement calling this movie “a balanced portrayal of the McCain/Palin campaign."


#1 HBO is the same nutwork who gives us Bill Maher!

Remember these things about Home Box Office: 1) The nutwork is the chief forum for one of the crassest "comedians" on earth, Bill Maher: 2) HBO is owned by Time Warner, a major contributor to Obama in 2008: 3) HBO gave us a sicky-sweet "documentary" on Ears in 2009, shortly after he took office.

As for this piece of garbage: Mark Halperin, who wrote the book, writes for big-time MBM outlet Time magazine (owned by, of course, Time Warner). And the cast and crew consist of big time Obama supporters (no surprise here at all). Here's another reason to cancel HBO subscriptions...

#2 Good morning Mary Louise

You misjudge Bill Mayer. He's not any kind of a comedian, he's a low-life commodian. And you know what commodes are full of.


Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

#3 preaching to their choir

HBO's political agenda is so thinly veiled, even Mr. Magoo could see right through it. (Note to kids: "google" Mr. Magoo to discover the comedic premise of his character: poor eyesight). Are they not "preaching to their own choir" by now? I had terminated my subscription to them a long time ago when that became quite clear in their "original HBO production" content. Among my friends and co-workers, a somewhat politically diverse group, I know of NO ONE who either currently subscribes-- all either "never" or "formerly" subscribed. Whenever you turn on one of those "self congratulatory" awards shows, HBO ALWAYS rakes in the trophies-- because the "Hollywood industry" just "oohs and ahhs" whenever their company is mentioned. They've literally become the proverbial "2nd oldest profession" all groveling to HBO's status as "biggest pimp on the block". Has anyone ever peeked behind their curtains to see any associations between HBO execs and openly partisan groups such as Media Matters? Bet you lunch that it's so.

#4 look on the bright side -

look on the bright side - this just shows once again how wonderfully frightening and superbly enraging Sarah is to our deliciously deranged democrat party...hee hee hee...

Congratulations Jimmy Carter!

#5 Yep, that is the way I see it too.

A side effect of kool-aid.

Sarah has a BIG future with a big role of scaring the Kool-aid lushes silly, even if she never runs for office.

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

#6 It looks like Karl Pilkington

It looks like Karl Pilkington is the smartest one on HBO now!

#7 There's one way to stop this liberal hate by the media!

Boycott this movie and other shows that indoctrinate rather than educate and entertain. If I choose to watch a television show or movie and see they are obviously trying to make a cultural point of view thats contrary to my world view, I change the channel. I refuse to watch the Lying Stream Media national news - ABC, CBS, NBC and the parasitic cable channels like MSNBC and CNN. They haven't the slightest pretense of balance.

If enough people who disagreed with these propaganda mills would do the same and write their advertisers, the mesage may eventually get across - especially when it hits them in the pocket book.

You have a choice. Watch their garbage or turn it off.

iamsaved "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left," (Ecclesiastes 10:2) MSM Journalism - "a profession consisting of idealogues espousing their beliefs regardless of facts and/or truth."

#8 may need to go one step further

since many of us have boycotted HBO for years, maybe its time to put pressure on the cable company which offers HBO.

#9 One On One

Palin would whip this whole bunch like a government mule.~!~

kilrod "the Birther"

If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,?? 

#10 Sure,+ Couric's glaring ignoring of Biden dementia-like quotes?

Again, you have Joe Biden who gaffes endlessly. Couric interviewed Biden who made chilling
statements about "Roosevelt on TV" (wrong Prez, wrong tech). Yet, this was simply ignored or
given the "good, old Joe" treatment,
Sadly, we know some level of post-stroke dementia will affect almost 50% of stroke survivors decades after the stroke event. Yet, our VP is the proverbial "one heart beat away" from the nuke buttons, and still never a question of the human gaffe machine, ie "Sir, have you had recent MRI's or neuropsychometric tests?"
It doesnt even have to be rude questioning, just a basic inquiry based upon real medical science.
No, HBO gives us yet another Palin screed. America is in decline, and deserves its fate..................

#11 Here's the Lancet reference, if HBO has Biden movie in works,


Dementia is one of the major causes of dependency after stroke. The prevalence of poststroke dementia (PSD)-defined as any dementia occurring after stroke-is likely to increase in the future. In community-based studies, the prevalence of PSD in stroke survivors is about 30% and the incidence of new onset dementia after stroke increases from 7% after 1 year 48% after 25 years. Having a stroke doubles the risk of dementia. Patient-related variables associated with an increased risk of PSD are increasing age, low education level, dependency before stroke, prestroke cognitive decline without dementia, diabetes mellitus, atrial fibrillation, myocardial infarction, epileptic seizures, sepsis, cardiac arrhythmias, congestive heart failure, silent cerebral infarcts, global and medial-temporal-lobe atrophy, and white-matter changes. Stroke-related variables associated with an increased risk of PSD are stroke severity, cause, location, and recurrence. PSD might be the result of vascular lesions, Alzheimer pathology, white-matter changes, or combinations of these. The cause of PSD differs among studies in relation to the mean age of patients, ethnicity, criteria used, and time after stroke. In developed countries, the proportion of patients with presumed Alzheimer's disease among those with PSD is between 19% and 61%. Patients with PSD have high mortality rates and are likely to be functionally impaired. These patients should be treated according to the current guidelines for stroke prevention.

#12 Channeling David Gregory

(aka: Barney Rubble) Dr. Sam: "Response."
Good post merly.

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!

#13 :oD love the Barney Rubble, and our media is lamO

ie--- NB has well -demonstrated on gas price stories with Bush vs Obama in office.
Again, judging from Quayle's potatoe remark, any GOP VP candidate making the Roosevelt TV
statement would have been driven from the ticket..........
Palin's treatment was beyond vicious and cruel, but I believe only 1 of the 2 of them
has a massive stroke in their past history.

#14 You knew I'd chime in sooner or later!

From what I have observed of Joe Biden, there could be multiple pathologies at work in his constant mangling of everything under the sun. He was a terrible, cynical choice to be Vice President. Thankfully, at least it removed that blowhard from the Senate and put him in a position where he would be reduced to cutting ribbons at supermarket openings and being the official US ambassador to funerals, marriages and other state occasions outside of the US when Mooch is on vacation--yet again.

The first thing I notice about Joe is his constant state of confusion. There are more than a few pathologies that could be at work, from an anticholinergic overload in his medications to the sequelae (after-effects) of various forms of CVA (CerebroVascular Accident = stroke) to an uncovered mental illness proximal to other causes.

I also notice Joe's facial expressions. While some of this may be due to aggressive Botox dosing (he certainly continues to have that done--look at the lack of eyebrow movement), some of it may also be a manifestation of a CVA.

The last thing I notice about Joe is the disinhibition present in his speech and behavior. Normally, patients who are taking certain forms of sedatives (benzodiazepines primarily) and certain types of antidepressants simultaneously experience a decrease in their ability to control what they say. Akin to a form of verbal Tourette's, patients who are receiving larger doses of benzodiazepines like Klonopin, Valium, Ativan or Xanax will say whatever is on their mind without filtering it relative to the emotional affect it would have upon the receiver, as a normal patient would be inhibited from saying certain things based on the assumption they have a normal degree of emotional connection and concern for an intended conversational recipient. This same disinhibition can also affect behavior, with the patient taking physical risks and being far more physically aggressive than they otherwise would be.

I certainly don't know what medications Joe is receiving, but based on his family history (as mirrored through his son's stroke), I would bet it includes one or more antihypertensives (a number of which carry significant anticholinergic potential), one or more medications for depression and/or anxiety (the disinhibition I mention above strongly suggests that) and perhaps other medications like a lipid-lowering drug (statin) and those for other diagnoses he might have. Anticholinergic toxicity is additive and is measured in units called "atropine equivalents". As Joe ages, his ability to excrete potentially active drug metabolites also diminishes as kidney function decreases as a natural consequence of age. This generally means that with elderly patients I usually reduce the doses of any psychiatric or neurological medications to avoid anticholinergic toxicity whenever I can.

#15 Sorry, Doc...I disagree w/your diagnosis

Uncle Joe is merely a useful liberal idiot. A doddering old fool....whose grasp has far exceeded his reach. He should have always been cleaning dog kennels. That's about his general speed.

#16 How dare they!

We first have to wait for sunrise to see where the sun actually rises. No one should go around making wild predictions like "the sun will rise in the east tomorrow" without waiting for the actual data.


Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it! 

#17 To Protect Liberty

Those who exercise their rights to free speech and freedom of the press have an obligation to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Else, we all lose these rights.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.

#18 Sarah getting tedious.

Every time I hear her whiny voice on Fox News, I become less enchanted. She is a huge Newt supporter which shows poor political Newt would be a self destructing candidate.

For me...with Sarah Palin. THE THRILL IS GONE. She needs to stay in Alaska and spend more time fishing and hunting.

Chris H. Beyer Right of Way Pundit

#19 Let me guess...

Rmoney or Paul? Figures. Sarah scares the hell out of the media and you too apparently. PDS is strong in this one.

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!

#20 I agree. I liked her in the

I agree. I liked her in the beginning until she opened her mouth.

1. She believe it was Saddam who attacked us on 9/11

2. Didn't know why North and South Korea were separate countries.

3. Thought Queen Elizabeth made the government decisions in England

#21 Sure goldwater*

And Obama is soooo much smarter than Palin...

#22 You are hilarious!

You forgot number 4. She thought the moon was made of green cheese.


"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama

#23 goldwater89 the retread troll LIES through his green teeth.

1. She believe it was Saddam who attacked us on 9/11

Steve Schmidt claimed this. The same Steve Schmidt Mr. Bozel spoke of above. There is no video anywhere of her claiming this evah.

2. Didn't know why North and South Korea were separate countries.

A simple gaffe. Yeah, and President Obama admitted he was a muslim.

3. Thought Queen Elizabeth made the government decisions in England

Again, this came from Steve Schmidt, a guy that looks to have had his Cheerios pissed on by one of Sarah Palin's children. Again, no video of her ever saying anything remotely close. Evah

Up yours Leon.

#24 Oh please. All I ever here

Oh please. All I ever here from her followers are excuses. The woman does nothing wrong in their eyes.

But the "North Korean allies" is a completely different incident. The book is referring to her having no clue as to why they're separate countries. The "Queen Elizabeth is the head of the British government" thing is complete and utter ignorance.

So because there's no video of something that happened, we should write off someone's first-hand account of it as a lie?

#25 So, then,

Should your apparent inability to tell the difference between "here" and "hear" taint everything you write from now on?

"But my advice to you can be summed up in two words: Thicker skin." - Jer

#26 CX*


#27 and queen elizabeth is the

and queen elizabeth is the head of the british government - the PM reports to her...

Congratulations Jimmy Carter!

#28 Any cliche about glass houses will do

The only ignorant one here is you. 

When the British PM calls an election, does he just say "I'm calling an election"?  Or, does he go see someone first?  And if/when he does, who is it?

When watching some old PMQs once, I heard David Cameron yelling at then-PM Brown to "Get in your car, go down to Buckingham Palace, and call that election!"  Gee, why would a PM have to do THAT?

I once heard a scathing lecture on the military operations in Bosnia, and when the British military issued orders, the first words were "The Queen's government..."

Your last question only shows me how poor your grasp of history and human nature is.  

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#29 Goodness gracious. Now one of

Goodness gracious. Now one of the Palin fans is actually agreeing with her and saying that the Queen is the chief decision maker.

They go to her out of respect for the monarch. The only duties she has are ceremonial. You think that she decides if and when there should be an election?! Your ignorance is astonishing. I couldn't expect anything less from a Sarah Palin apologist.

#30 The condescension of Leftists like goldwater89

Your inability to read and your condescension are astonishing.  I couldn't expect anything less from a liar who claims to be a Republican but will ONLY attack conservatives.  PLEASE show me where "I agreed with her" and said that the Queen is "the chief decision maker".  

Please read the 2012 World Almanac and Book of Facts.  The PM is the Head of Government.  The Queen is head of state. 

Please show for me, illiterate one, where I said that the Queen determines if and when there should be an election.  I know you live only for attacking conservatives, constantly lying, and being a condescending asshole, but unfortunately for you, they only thing you are succeeding at here is demonstrating you very own colossal ignorance.  The Queen's position may be ceremonial, but when election time comes, the PM turns to her to dissolve Parliament, after which the election is called.  Why else was David Cameron demanding then-PM Brown visit Buckingham Palace to call an election in one of my favorite PMQ sessions available on YouTube?  What was PM Brown to do?  Comment on the artwork?  

The monarch also serves as something of an advisor to the PM when the PM feels the need to call on her to do so. And the Queen is well placed for such a role; as she has been Queen for 60 years, she's seen all sorts of PMs come and go.  When she assumed the throne, Winston Churchill was PM (in the midst of his term from 1951-1955).  

Also, please show me where or how I am a "Sarah Palin apologist".  

Don't mess with a dude who is surrounded by Anglophiles and who himself watches PMQs for entertainment. 

By the way, PLEASE show me where the woman you most passionately hate for not being a committed Leftist like you are specifically said "the Queen is the chief decision maker".  A line from a book or a movie does not count.  

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#31 The woman believed that the

The woman believed that the Queen made the government decisions, not the PM.

End of story.

Enough with the excuses. It's astonishing to see the lengths her supporters will go to in order to defend her EVEN when she says something untrue!

Didn't take long for the name calling to come. Stay classy!

#32 Who says?

Do tell Leon. Who says she did not know the Queen was in charge?

#33 Who is Leon?

Who is Leon?

#34 A Nom de plume.

goldwater89 or Leon or Jonathan Goldwater. All same same same.

You got any more stupid questions, troll?

#35 "Quizzed by McCain's chief

"Quizzed by McCain's chief strategist Steve Schmidt on how she would react if Britain decided to withdraw its troops and support for operations in Iraq, Palin responded that she would "continue to have an open dialogue" with the Queen of England. When informed Queen Elizabeth II does not run Britain, Palin asks who does.

Schmidt has to tell her that the elected prime minister, then Gordon Brown, would be the one she would have to speak to about the UK's involvement in Iraq."

#36 Did you put that in your book, Leon?

or goldwater89 or Stevie Smitkeys or whatever it is you go by.

Here, I can just make up crap too.

"Quizzed by McCain's chief strategist Steve Schmidt on how he would react if given a dollar, goldwater89 responded that he would "buy a popsicle and shove it up his rear".

Oh look, a single sourced acusation. Hmmm. My, that never happens, ok, that rarely happens. Always seems to happen around goldwater89 aka Leon though.

#37 Just because you don't like

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it was made up. How sad.

The McCain people had to basically give her a history lesson because she literally knew nothing about history.

#38 Good grief,

I am pretty sure, it was Palin giving the lesson!

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

#39 Again. Who says, troll? What McCain people?

I count one. Kindly list the others ---

1. ____________
2. ____________
3. ____________
4. ____________

And... Oh my trolljegeren, pull your damn pants up and get that popsicle out of your rear. No one will continute to talk to you if you continue with your nasty habits.

#40 Any cliche about glass houses will do

Actually you are the one who knows nothing about history or, most critically, source evaluation.  If you actually studied history, you'd know better than to running around acting like a know-it-all because you read ONE source from ONE individual who may or may not have had an axe to grind against Palin.  

If I had tried the same lame-ass tactic you are using here, I would be catapulted from academia so fast all of the NB readers' heads would still be spinning. 

But then, your mission here is to claim you are a Republican, all the while attacking everyone who is to the Right of your hero, His Majesty The Shahinshah.  

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#41 I have a MA in history from

I have a MA in history from Yale. Thanks.

What lies have I told? Get real. You're an ideologue if i've ever seen one. You have a really hard time accepting facts.

Why would he have an axe to grind with her? And it's not just him. Numerous people from the campaign have come forward and said she knew next to nothing about foreign policy.

#42 Wait, you want to know about here or your previous accounts.

We have documented your lies here already. You bring single source lies from ONE man, lies no one else on the planet has amazingly heard. I gave you a chance to document who else heard the lies. You gave it a pass because you know they are lies.

Now I am gonna ask you even further. Sarah Palin has been a Fox Nex contributor for something like a year, maybe more. She has put in hundred, maybe hundreds of hours of airtime. If she is as colossally as dumb as you, Leon the Steve Schmidt loving troll, claim. You can link to one thing she has said that is as dumb as what you, the Steve Schmidt loving troll, claim she has said in private. Here is your chance ----

The one thing Sarah Palin has said on the air at Fox News that is colossally dumb ---

1. _________________

Any time troll.

Prediction boys and girls! The troll won't find nothing. Will in fact lie or just disappear. It is what trolls do after all.

#43 So because you don't like it,

So because you don't like it, it's a lie... that's some philosophy you've got there!

She's made dozens of ignorant statements. But one of my favorites was when she said that the Constitution was based on the Bible.

“I think we should keep this clean, keep it simple, go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant. They’re quite clear that we would create law based on the God of the Bible and the 10 commandments, it’s pretty simple.”

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."" - Thomas Jefferson

But wait!! There's no video of TJ saying that! It must be a lie!!

#44 Nice try. Beclown yourself with the only statement YOU selected.

Get away from the lies of Steve Schmidt and you the anonymous idiot that has to remain anonymous because you would destroy the only name you had lickety-split.

 The lying liar of an idiot Leon AKA goldwaterblahblahblah: But one of my favorites was when she said that the Constitution was based on the Bible.

The Declaration of Indpendence proclaims God as Creator. 

The Declaration contains five references to God - God as supreme Lawmaker, God as Creator of all men, God as the Source of all rights, God as the world's supreme Judge, and God as our Protector on whom we can rely.

Yet another troll that proudly wears his ass for a hat and even parades around in it.  Yup two three fur. Yup two three fur.

#45 “The government of the United

“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion” - George Washington

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."" - Thomas Jefferson

#46 The Dingbat goldwater89 LIES again!

The Dingbat of Newsbusters goldwater89: “The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion” - George Washington


The quote is from an early treaty with the Barbary PiratesNOT George Washington. George Washington NEVER UTTERED THAT LINE IN HIS LIFE.

The stupid stupid stupid troll that thinks he is smarter than Sarah Palin FAILS again.

#47 And signed by founding

Written and signed by founding father...John Adams.

Go away now, Sarah Palin apologist. You've embarrassed yourself enough.

#48 But still asshattery on your

But still asshattery on your part by ASSigning the quote to GW.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend, unless my friend is more evil than my enemy."

#49 Yes. I misattributed a quote to George Washington.

Oh wait, no YOU DID.

My, how embarrassing for me to expose your stupidity. Say, I should apologize to the boys and girls. Now what was your original quote?

dingbat goldwater89: ...she said that the Constitution was based on the Bible..

She did not say CONSTITUTION. LIAR.

Sarah Palin: ...go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant.


And I showed the Declaration of Independence, a founding document written by founders, contained 5 references to God.


Your response. MORE STUPID.

the dingbat goldwater89 troll: “The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion” - George Washington


Your further response even more stupid.

the dingbat goldwater89: Written and signed by founding father...John Adams.

ANOTHER LIE. The treaty was written by John Barstow. <a href="">Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796</a>


Piss off you congenital LIAR.

#50 Are you dense? HE SIGNED THE


#51 Yes. I am. I forced you to say this ---

the dingbat goldwater89: Written and signed by founding father...John Adams.

Yes. I forced you to STUPIDLY say the treaty was written by John Adams.

For that I apologize to the boys and girls.

#52 Leon

You are beyond dense, you are black hole dense! Sarah Palin was not talking about THATdocument!

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend, unless my friend is more evil than my enemy."

#53 Great Links Vet.

Now gold dud will drift off to another.... thread... at another time..Losing every sort of data chunk he acquired here, pearl stomping swine troll.

#54 Great links? They're all from

Great links? They're all from right-wing blogs...

#55 Blogs in 1972, really?

read about all that, on one of these, ea!

#56 Where does it say that that

Where does it say that that was written in 1972. Nice try

#57 The Declaration contains five references to God

That was written a little before 1972...

#58 And no references to the

And no references to the Bible, Jesus, Christianity, etc

#59 George Washington 1st U.S.

George Washington
1st U.S. President

"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."
--The Writings of Washington, pp. 342-343.

John Adams
2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be."
--Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.

"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
--Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

Thomas Jefferson
3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event."
--Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.

"I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
--The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385.

John Hancock
1st Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."
--History of the United States of America, Vol. II, p. 229.

Benjamin Franklin
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Unites States Constitution

"Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped.

That the most acceptable service we render to him is in doing good to his other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them.

As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and his religion, as he left them to us, is the best the world ever saw, or is likely to see;

But I apprehend it has received various corrupting changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the truth with less trouble. I see no harm, however, in its being believed, if that belief has the good consequence, as probably it has, of making his doctrines more respected and more observed; especially as I do not perceive, that the Supreme takes it amiss, by distinguishing the unbelievers in his government of the world with any peculiar marks of his displeasure."
--Benjamin Franklin wrote this in a letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale University on March 9, 1790.

James Madison
4th U.S. President

"Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ."
--America's Providential History, p. 93.

Indeed, the list goes on and on. To say the Founding Fathers were not affected by Christianity, nor founded this country on Christian beliefs is idiotic.

#60 Where did I say that they

Where did I say that they weren't religious men? I said no such thing. I said that the CONSTITUTION makes no reference to any of those things, and there's a reason for that. They believed in a separation of church and state.

#61 I see,

so even though the Founding Fathers were obviously Christian, they believed in living their lives by Christian values, God is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, but because they do not specifically mention the CHRISTIAN God in the Constitution, that means the country was not founded on Christianity and Christian values????

The separation of church and state was to keep government out of religion, NOT to keep religion out of government.

#62 Yea yea yea, and marriage includes same sex couples

been that way for ever....Because your personal god sez so.

#63 Hah!

Oh, so you DO occasionally do source evaluation after all!

Too bad you lack the honesty (of ANY kind) to do that all the time...

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#64 Oh dingbat. And you will be referenced as the dingbat...

...from here on out. Oh dingbat...

The dingbat goldwaterblahblahblah: ...of my favorites was when she said that the Constitution was based on the Bible.

Not what she said, was it dingbat? She said founders and our founding documents which includes the Declaration of Independence. And the Declaration of Independance contains FIVE references to God. Your best shot. And it is your best shot because no one brings out the lame crap first. Your best shot an utter failure. Your attempt at proving Sarah Palin is stupid only confirms YOU are the idiot. She was right.

God job Dingbat. Now lift those legs and march around with your ass for a hat and put on a show for us. Yup two three fur. Yup two three fur.

 The Founding Fathers of the United States of America were political leaders and statesmen who participated in the American Revolution by creating the United States Declaration of Independence, taking part in the American Revolutionary War, establishing the United States Constitution...

#65 1. Paul Revere Warned the

1. Paul Revere Warned the British

2. Sputnik Bankrupted the Soviet Union

3. The Vice President Runs the Senate

4. The Founding Fathers Said the Pledge of Allegiance

5. Kodiak Island is America's Largest Island

6. Susan B. Anthony Opposed Abortion

7. Democrats Moved "In God We Trust" on Coins

8. The White House Has a Department of Law

9. New Hampshire is in the Northwest

10. Many VPs Had Never Met a Head of State Before Taking Office

#66 Some nasty counter-arguments

Paul Revere DID warn fellow British subjects about the British military as his midnight ride came - what? - 15-16 months BEFORE the Declaration of Independence? 

I could make a good case that Sputnik (and the space program the Soviets had) aided the bankruptcy of the Soviet Union. 

The Vice President is in fact the President of the Senate.  Read the Constitution sometime.  

The others?  Again, you are not to be believed.  And you are extremely poor about source evaluation, which only shows me, once again, how intellectually dishonest you are and the fact that all you do is lie. If this doesn't show that your boasting about your education is a total lie, I don't know what does.  

But yes, I realize that you, being the good Republican that you are, hate every single human being to the Right of your God, His Majesty The Shahinshah.  And that you simply won't be happy until Sarah Palin stops breathing.  

By the way, what about your hero, a sitting President that thinks Austrian is a language, thinks there are 57 states, and that Navy combat medics are the walking dead?  Among MANY OTHER gaffes from a man who is allegedly the greatest genius to have ever walked the earth?

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#67 The Dingbat goldwater89 LIES again!

The Dingbat goldwater89 troll: 2. Sputnik Bankrupted the Soviet Union

The dingbat brings this as an example of a Sarah Palin statement.


Sarah Palin did not say Sputnik bankrupted the Soviet Union. She said The USSR incurred so much debt, it led to the inevitable decline of the USSR. The dingbat goldwater89 LIES again. He can't even get a quote right.

Sarah Palin: And he needs to remember that what happened back then with the former communist USSR and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won, but they also incurred so much debt at the time that it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union.

And is she alone in that theory?

The Space Race is often viewed as an extension of the Cold War. The USSR and USA were competing to outdo each other in the mediagenic field of space exploration, in an effort to prove that their system of political organization (Communism vs. Capitalism) was superior. Although the Soviet Union had a very strong start, launching the first satellite and the first human into space, the USA eventually triumphed in the long run, landing the first man on the Moon. By the mid-70s, the Soviet Union was entering an economic downturn that would signal its eventual collapse. This forced it to cut way back on funding its space program.

#68 The Dingbat goldwater89 LIES again!

The dingbat goldwater89 troll: 3. The Vice President Runs the Senate

Another example of the dingbat saying Sarah Palin is stupid when in fact he is the stupid one.

Sarah Palin addressing 3rd graders: "A vice president has a really great job because not only are they there to support the president’s agenda, they’re there like the team member, the teammate to the president," Palin continued. “But also, they’re in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.


That is an oversimplification but she was addressing 3rd Graders. Something the LYING dingbat goldwater troll has yet to pass.

From that same article ---


Article I of the Constitution states that "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided." 

In recent years, the role has been largely ceremonial. Vice President Dick Cheney has cast just eight tie-breaking votes during the Bush administration. Most recently in March, Vice President Cheney broke a tie on a procedural motion whether to consider an amendment that would have rolled back tax rates for the alternative minimum tax. 

The vice president can also preside over floor debate in the Senate — a role usually filled by the Senate president pro tempore, and more often done by first-term senators. 

Palin was also asked the role of the vice president in her debate earlier this month with Senator Joe Biden, where she cited the vice president’s role presiding over the Senate as a way to "exert a bit more authority" to work with the Senate on the president’s agenda.
"I’m thankful the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president if that vice president so chose to exert it in working with the Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president’s policies and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths are," Palin said in the debate.
When asked to explain her remarks in an interview with Fox News the day after the debate, Plain reiterated her position that overseeing the Senate would give her "a tremendous amount of flexibility and authority" to work with the Senate.
"The vice president, of course, is not a member, or a part of the legislative branch, except to oversee the Senate," Palin told Fox News’ Carl Cameron. "That alone provides a tremendous amount of flexibility and authority if that vice president so chose to use it."


#70 The Dingbat goldwater89 LIES again!

the dingbat goldwater89 troll: 5. Kodiak Island is America's Largest Island

Another example of what the dingbat thinks Sarah Palin is wrong about. And another LIE. As usual, it depends on how you look at it.

 Turns out Kodiak is largest U.S. island, depending on viewpoint - Alaska Daily News.

#71 Good lord, you're beyond

Good lord, you're beyond ignorant. Again proving how delusional you are.

The Island of Hawaiʻi is America's largest island, Einstein.

#72 Nephew

You should know better than to cite that wikipedia thing. That aint nothing but a lefty site where any liberal scum can post their lies.

#73 [...and the second largest

[...and the second largest island in the United States]

#74 Is there a gene?

For sense of humour?

#75 Ha! Sorry. You have to know

Ha! Sorry. You have to know that people on here would actually say something like that and mean it!

#76 "Kodiak Island is the second

"Kodiak Island is the second largest island in the United States, second only to the island of Hawaii."

From the Island's actual website. Guess that was written by liberal scum too, right?

#77 Apparently, goldwater,

you are not bright enough to recognize sarcasm. You and mandrake are cut from the same cloth and he would be the first to agree with you.

You've done nothing but embarass yourself since the first day you've arrived here. Give it a rest, and an education, and try again some other time.

You used to be amusing, but now I'm just embarassed for you.

#78 So let's see, Hawaii is 4,028

So let's see, Hawaii is 4,028 sq miles and Kodiak 3,595 sq miles, a difference of 433 sq miles. A mere 133 sq miles more than the size of New York City.

Sounds pretty close to me. Heck, Kodiak is 2,381 sq miles larger than Rhode Island!!!!!! A friggin State!!!!!!!

Your attempts here to denigrate Sarah Palin are falling far short of the mark.

By the way, can you name all the 57 states your Shahinshah visited in 2008?

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan

#79 mandrake listening to the mandrakes again

Regardless of politics, wikipedia is a horrible source to cite anyway and I have went off on students for daring to cite it!  

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#80 And your point is what Retard?

your dingbat quote: Kodiak Island is America's Largest Island.

If you had bothered to open the link, you would have seen that Kodiak island was listed as the largest for 30 YEARS in Webster's New World College Dictionary. So if she was wrong, the she was citing wrong information.

So I went to Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th Edition, "The Official Dictionary of The Associated Press." There on page 794, it gave the area of Kodiak Island -- not the archipelago or islands, plural -- as 5,363 square miles. 

The 5,363 figure has been used by Webster's for at least 30 years, including in their geographical dictionaries. I sent an e-mail asking for clarification and sources to the book's publisher, Macmillan, but have yet to hear back.

And you would had seen this --

When I lived on Kodiak, folks there acknowledged it to be the second biggest U.S. island in terms of area, but No. 1 in coastline.

LIAR. You have not been right about any one stupid quote on yet you have the temerity to act like you got something on all of us.


#81 More Palin apologizing. So

More Palin apologizing. So now it wasn't her fault, it was the dictionaries! Riiiight

#82 You claim she is stupid like you, LIAR.

Pulling information from an inaccurate source like a dictionary. Especially one that has the inaccuracy in it for 30 years without correction does not make you stupid.

You even with the facts in front of your face here, continue to repeat your stupid. That makes you a ----


#83 Whats funnier is that you

Whats funnier is that you think Palin even has a dictionary or an encyclopedia

#84 Considering how much you have pegged out the Stupid meter.... have no room to talk. Let's look at your stupid just here on this one page ---

Claimed lies from a single source, Steve Schmidt, are to be taken as fact.

Claimed a gaffe about North/South Korea was an example of Stupid.

Confused the word "here" with "hear"

Failed to list one other person other than Steve Schmidt that can back up his accusations.

Continue with false accusations, claim others are ideologue yet you are Miss Prissypants up and up.

"Numerous people from the campaign have come forward..." Failed to name one other person that can back up Steve Schmidt.

"She's made dozens of ignorant statements..." and yet every single statement I have looked at is not ignorant at all. A lie.

Claimed Mrs. Palin said Constitution when in fact she said founders and founding documents.

Claimed the separation of church and state is an example of the founders not referring to God in the founding documents.

Brought a misattributed quote to George Washington

Claimed John Adams wrote the Tripoli Treaty when in fact James Barstow wrote it.

Tried to claim the Tripoli Treaty was a founding document as stated by Sarah Palin.

Claim right wing blogs are in the business of lying and can't be trusted.

Doubled down on your stupid - "I said that the CONSTITUTION makes no reference to any of those things..." Sarah Palin said founders and founding documents not Constitution alone.

Your response to getting shot down on your lies about Sarah Palin on the founders and founding documents vs your constitution LIES? A list of more bullshit people claimed Sarah Palin said.

Failed to read the link that showed Websters claims Kodiak is the largest island and has been publishing that for 30 years. Act as though someone citing that is stupid rather than misinformed.

Dismiss a link that has sources of writings, diaries, quotes, and publishing from someone. Your dismissal speaks only to one source among many. You refuse to even mention the others.

You cite a indirect quote -- "Democrats Moved "In God We Trust" on Coins" -- then demand we respect your implying what was said where no implications were made.


Yeah, you got lots of room to talk about people opening dictionaries and encyclopedias.


#85 Even her handlers aren't as

Even her handlers aren't as big of apologists as you are. I feel so sorry for you. To be such a delusional fanatic. You really need to find a hobby fast. Anyone who claims that Sarah Palin has never made an ignorant statement is deranged on so many levels.

The fact that you think the founding fathers didn't want a separation of church and state is also VERY troubling. Just goes to show what a zealot you are. I gave you quotes by John Adams and Thomas Jefferson proving my assertion.

BTW, another McCain advisor who said she was clueless was Tucker Eskew.

#86 Yes. Feel sorry for me boys and girls.

I forced the dingbats fingers to type out all the lies and stupid. I iz ashamefulz. 

The dingbat LIES again: The fact that you think the founding fathers didn't want a separation of church and state...

Never said anything remotely close, dingbat. I simply pointed out your lies.  Your ORIGINAL LIE, the LIE I pointed out had nothing to do with separation of church and state. YOU LIE AGAIN.

dingbat goldwater89: ...she said that the Constitution was based on the Bible..

She said no such thing. I proved it. That you are trying to change this into something about separating crutches and statins in on you and your lying ass.

#87 Not that you need any assistance ---

whatsoever, but this goldwater89 is about as lame a pos suffering from  Palin Derangement Syndrome as has slimed these threads since tombaker took over for steve005.

Suffering from, hell; he is reveling in it.

Got a degree from Yale, huh?

Musta stolen it.


"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

#88 The Dingbat goldwater89 LIES again!

the dingbat goldwater89 troll: 6. Susan B. Anthony Opposed Abortion

Another example of what the dingbat thinks Sarah Palin was wrong about.

Only she was correct again. From ---

The pair gloss over an article in a newspaper owned for several years after the Civil War by Susan B. Anthony in which she describes abortion as "child murder" by merely saying no evidence exists that she wrote it.

The pair dismiss other evidence: Anthony remarked in her diary after a visit from her brother that her sister-in-law engaged in a self-induced abortion that did not go well and left her bedridden.

"She will rue the day she forces nature," Anthony writes, but the women claim Anthony wasn’t referring to the abortion but her sadness about her relative facing post-abortion complications.

Marjorie Dannenfelser, president, Susan B. Anthony List, responded with her own Washington Post editorial.

"Susan B. Anthony was passionate and logical in her arguments against abortion. The Revolution was her brainchild, co-founded with Elizabeth Cady Stanton as a weekly women’s rights newspaper that acted as the official voice of the National Woman Suffrage Association and in which appeared many of her writings alongside those of her like-minded colleagues," she notes.

"Most logical people would agree, then, that writings signed by ‘A’ in a paper that Anthony funded and published were a reflection of her own opinions," she said.

Dannenfelser goes on to point out more quotes from Anthony that the authors failed to address.

In one house editorial in the Revolution, appearing on July 8, 1869, Anthony wrote, "Guilty? Yes. No matter what the motive, love of ease, or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent, the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed. It will burden her conscience in life, it will burden her soul in death; but oh, thrice guilty is he who… drove her to the desperation which impelled her to the crime!"

 Dannenfelser also cites Anthony’s words to Frances Willard in 1889: "Sweeter even than to have had the joy of children of my own has it been for me to help bring about a better state of things for mothers generally, so that their unborn little ones could not be willed away from them."


"So, while the Life cause isn’t the issue that earned Susan B. Anthony her stripes in American history books, historians would be wrong to conclude that Anthony was agnostic on the issue of abortion," the pro-life women’s leader said.

#89 Again, no proof that she

Again, no proof that she wrote any of those things. You lose yet again

#90 No proof who wrote what,retard?

Your dingbat quote : Susan B. Anthony Opposed Abortion

Susan B. Anthony did not write something in her own newspaper? She did not write something in her own diary?  The Susan B Anthony List president, the same Susan B Anthony List where Mrs. Palin made here remarks says IT IS TRUE. There is no proof she wrote an editorial IN HER NAME? No proof she wrote Frances Willard in 1889.

Piss off you congenital LIAR.

#91 The Susan B. Anthony pro-life

The Susan B. Anthony pro-life narrative is a case of invented historical revisionism.

BTW, are the petty insults really necessary? Always nice to see classy right-wing Sarah Palin apologists.

#92 Prove it LYING troll.

I linked to an article that quoted the PRESIDENT of the SUSAN B ANTHONY LIST.

Any time you want to man up and prove the she was wrong, you are fully free to do so. Link like a human though, we already have you pegged as a congenital liar. Nothing you say can be believed.


#93 The SBA List is a pro-life

The SBA List is a pro-life organization. What do you expect them to say?

There is no proof that Anthony wrote the cited essay since she was not known to sign "A."

Why wouldn't she sign her own name? Because it wasn't her.

Again, more insults. Classy as always. Very Saul Alinsky of you.

#94 Again. My link took from various sources. LIAR.

My link did not just cite the president of the society. It took from several sources INCLUDING HER DIARY AND WRITINGS.

Back it up sissy. Someone keeps pushing stupid around here like he was a snowplow and stupid was snow and he is sigining your name. Don't mean it was you, huh?


#95 I'm really beginning to feel

I'm really beginning to feel sorry for you. It must be difficult going through life being this delusional. Sissy? Wanting to call me "faggot"? I'm sure that's part of your regular vocabulary.

If Anthony were this pro-life activist as you would have be believe, don't you think she would've spoke out publicly against it? But no, all we have is a diary entry that's open to interpretation. That's the only time she EVER mentioned abortion.

"The only clear reference to abortion in Susan B. Anthony's writings, recently discovered by Ann, was quickly fitted into the anti-abortion narrative. After a visit with her brother, Anthony remarks in her diary that her sister-in-law aborted a pregnancy, things did not go well, and the woman was bedridden. Anthony concludes, "She will rue the day she forces nature." Clearly Anthony did not applaud her sister-in-law's action, but the notation is ambiguous. Is it the act of abortion that will be regretted? Or is it being bedridden, the risk taken with one's own life? At most, the quotation amounts to private disapproval within the family, unlikely to be voiced to her beloved relative. But there is no hint that this is a social problem or a political matter. No one could mistake the diary entry for "passionate abhorrence" to abortion, a commitment to "pro-life activism" -- as pro-lifers claim."

#96 Leon throws the 'gay card'.

Leon throws the 'gay card'. Really? You have never been around gay guys have you Leon? Never worked with them? Well MM has and faggots call each other faggots as much as niggas call each other niggas. It's not derogatory to them it's macho! (sort of in a faggish kind of way). The point I am making is, both words are overused, and mean next to nothing today! So get off your high horse Leon you are a sissy, maybe not a faggot but hey, you brought it up!

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend, unless my friend is more evil than my enemy."

#97 The dingbat goldwater troll LIES again.

the dingbat goldwater89: If Anthony were this pro-life activist as you would have be believe... 

No one said Susan B. Anthony was an activist. They simply said she was against abortion. YOU LIE AGAIN.

Dingbat. Leon the Dingbat troll.

#98 A solemn vow

goldwater89, I for one will NEVER call you a MiG-15. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#100 Oh ok, so she wasn't implying

Oh ok, so she wasn't implying that Democrats and the Obama Administration were to blame for the decision. Gotcha!

#101 Don't you mean "Got me!" ?

Don't you mean "Got me!" ? It's simple and plain that if you are not Leon, you are the reincarnation of Leon!

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend, unless my friend is more evil than my enemy."

#102 Not what you claimed, Retard. You never said "implied"

the dingbat goldwater89: 7. Democrats Moved "In God We Trust" on Coins

Or is the word implied implied in your LIE? The fact is, she left it open as to who did it. You wanted us to say she implied it. You should have said it from the beginning. YOU LIED.

#103 Who did you think she was

Who did you think she was talking about as she sneered and snickered?

#104 I never said. YOU did. Troll. Dingbat troll.

the dingbat goldwater89: 7. Democrats Moved "In God We Trust" on Coins

She did not say. Neither did I. Piss off with your constant troll games. YOU LIED. Live with it. She never said Democrats and you never said she implied it was Democrats UNTIL CALLED OUT ON YOUR LIE.

#105 Said, implied, it makes no

Said, implied, it makes no difference. We know who she was talking about.

#106 Yes. It does troll.

You claim it as an example of ignorance. But once again, it is my fault. I am supposed to be the one that forced you to claim she EXPLICITLY said Democrats.

the dingbat goldwater89: 7. Democrats Moved "In God We Trust" on Coins

Does it hurt? Does it hurt when I punch your fingers on the keyboard and force you to type out lies?

#107 Dude, get a life, seriously.

Dude, get a life, seriously. What does it say about a man who spends all day defending a moron. Off your meds today?

#108 Yes. It is my fault again boys and girls.

I spend all day defenderatinz and provinatinz and yet the troll has responded to every single post. Odd. Yep, just me. Not trolls responding with yet more lies. Just me and my nolifednesstings. All dayz. Me. Troll lies. Me. Troll lies some more. But somehow, it all comes down to me. Odd indeed.

#109 hay call me g89, whatever.. Post away Pal, delusional bowboy.

You gotta serve somebody...Etta James

Do tell us how you are making the world a better place.

Oh, fabulous meds... mediator, condescending  bozo

#110 Translation:

WAAAHHHHHH!!!!   PLEASE, MR. VET, STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

He's taking you and wiping the board with you, be a man about it. 

And by the way, here's the most important question of all:

I know you are very shallow and all, but what do you dislike about Mrs. Palin's policy or policy ideas?

goldwater89, policy is...forget it.  

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#112 The dingbat goldwater89 troll LIES again.

the dingbat goldwater89: 9. New Hampshire is in the Northwest

Another example of what a dingbat thinks Sarah Palin is mistaken about. The actual quote ---

"I like being here, because it seems like here and in our last rally too -- other parts around this great Northwest -- here in New Hampshire you just get it."

My idiot leftists and trolls get bent around the tiniest things. Sounds like she flubbed something in a speech. Maybe she said "this" instead of "the". Maybe she meant "northeast". Who knows. Again, do we "here" leftists whine about Obama and his muslim faith or the 57 states. Flubs and gaffes indicated nothing about IQ.

You go dingbat. A gaffe and a flub now indicates IQ in trollietown.

#113 Um, the Northwest United

Um, the Northwest United States refers to Washington, Oregon, Idaho, etc, not New Hampshire which is on the complete opposite side of the country.

"...and other parts in THIS great Northwest."

Even people in the audience booed after she said that.

#114 Yes Dingbat. She flubbed.

She may have just come from the northwest or may have been talking about it or she may have been trying to say she was in the northwest before. Or she may have scrambled two different sentences in a speech. Or...whatever. It is a flub or a gaffe.

Not like she claimed President Adams wrote the Tripoli Treaty, huh? Or misattributed a quote to George Washington, huh? Or claimed someone said the Constitution when they clearly said founders and founding documents.

#115 the Constitution is a

the Constitution is a founding document, genius.

#116 And a merry-go-round is a ride.

Making oddly placed pronouncements erases your lies how?

#117 Ah, why am I not surprised

Ah, why am I not surprised that you think the President is a Muslim. It's a popular belief amongst the far-right.

#118 Trolljegerens above, you are stupid.

It was an Obama gaffe, my muslim faith, and I linked to it here. Dingbat. But yeah, it is my fault again you can't read the English as typed out on this page, huh?

#119 Do YOU believe he is a

Do YOU believe he is a Muslim? Answer the question

#120 Maybe you oughta demand I answer that.

That has worked so well for all the banned trolls. Stomp your feet, hold your breath, and demand I answer your questions and play your trollie games.

#121 Okay, thanks. You just

Okay, thanks. You just answered my question.

#122 And yet it didn't.

But you continue to act like you are oblivious to the results of your trolling. Mmmmmkay?

#123 Wondered how long it would take for you---

to start giving orders.

Tell me, goldwater, as a panacea to remove the mental anguish resulting from  getting your ass kicked all up and down this thread, how does acting the martinet work out?



"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

#124 Careful, MD.

I believe he is about to transition to 'menacing' mode.

None of the other modes are working out too well.

#125 Getting my ass kicked?

Getting my ass kicked? Puh-leeze. Nice to see you come to the defense of your fellow far-right Palin apologist though. The Vet has managed to make a HUGE fool of himself.

Start giving orders? I asked a question. The horror!!

#126 Good as Gold*

" The Vet has managed to make a HUGE fool of himself"..
And there you have it folks. Proof positive that liberals live in a self induced delusional fantasy world.

#127 And once again, trollie wins! Yeay.

And how do we know the trollie won? Hey monkeyman, did you not hear the troll proclaim victory? Trollies always win because they can always say they win. Stupid monkeyman. You don't listen very well.

#128 The Black Knight from the Holy Grail speaks, I suppose...

You may wish to consult people who actually know and understand the English language sometime.  The way you addressed that question was in fact in the form of an order, which is typical of Leftists such as yourself.

The only person here who has made a fool of himself here is in fact you.  You made a series of assertions and did not back them up...and when you did, you used some of the crappiest source evaluation of all time.  (But boy oh boy did you ever attack people for DARING to quote from "right-wing blogs".  Knowing you, anything to the Right of your God, His Majesty The Shahinshah, is "far-right".  Rockefeller Republican, indeed.)

You may go now.  Be sure to slip your massive portraits of the Shahinshah some tongue before going to bed.  And try not to get too aroused looking deep into His HOT, BEAUTIFUL SMILE.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#129 Impossible

He can't be a Muslim because it would be damn difficult for Him to follow salat.

I mean, how the heck does one pray to oneself?  

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#130 Unsane*

"How the heck does one pray to oneself?"

Don't know but ask ANY liberal.  Self anointed messiah is the basis of their existence.

#131 Good one Cajun!!


Proud member of the 53%!

#132 The dingbat goldwater troll LIES again.

the dingbat goldwater89 troll: Many VPs Had Never Met a Head of State Before Taking Office A

nother example of what a dingbat thinks is something ignorant that Sarah Palin said.

The actual quote ---

Asked by ABC News if she had met with a foreign head of state, Palin said, "I have not and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you."

Note boys and girls. She said I THINK....

Yes, now saying I think is the equivalent of throwing out cold hard facts.

think: 3a: to have as an opinion <think it's so>

Oh dear, Sarah Palin had an opinion off the top of her mind and oh my she was wrong. Stupeez in trolliztown!


#133 So you're saying she couldn't

So you're saying she couldn't give a definitive answer? Because she was ignorant.

"In the last 32 years, EVERY vice president had met with a foreign head of state before taking office. Every one. In fact, since WWII, the only VP likely to share Palin's lack of familiarity with meeting heads of state was Spiro Agnew."

#134 I think you are a dingbat.

Different from saying flat out you are a dingbat.


#135 The dingbat goldwater89 troll LIES again.

the dingbat goldwater89 troll: 1. Paul Revere Warned the British 

Yes. Paul Revere did warn the British. He warned them they were going to get their asses handed back to them in a basket.

In fact, Revere’s own account of the ride in a 1798 letter seems to back up Palin’s claim. Revere describes how after his capture by British officers, he warned them “there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.”

Boston University history professor Brendan McConville said, “Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, ‘Look, there is a mobilization going on that you’ll be confronting,’ and the British are aware as they’re marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing — she was right about that — and warning shots being fired. That’s accurate.”

Just like you were warned to have your poo in one sock before you go lying on NewsBusters.


#136 Oh Leon.

You are forgetting to capitalize your "I"s just like you used to do. Sloppy.

#137 Unless someone else paid for your---

"education"; you were robbed - ripped off - taken to the cleaners - taken for a ride - and played for a fool.

Oh, you are a lib?

Then it was intentional.

Never mind.


"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

#138 I'm not believing a single word you say

I bet that's yet another lie.  I'm sure they teach what source evaluation at Yale or wherever you allegedly got your bachelor's.

But anyways, I'm not buying for one second you got an MA in history from Yale.  In fact, considering your ceaseless lying to this point, I'm not believing a word you say at this point.  Thanks.

Who are these "numerous people"?  More information is required.  And I'm not even a Palin supporter.  I'm just a rational adult who seeks more information.  I honestly cannot understand why this woman has made people so angry.  (Actually, I DO in fact know why.  Leftists like you CANNOT TOLERATE the idea of a woman who is remotely conservative becoming the city dogcatcher, much less a governor or a president.)

Besides, it's not surprising that a governor wouldn't be an expert on foreign policy.  Palin probably had more exposure to it than most considering where her state is.  And you know what's funny?  The evil dunce Palin actually took the time and visited her troops in the AK National Guard when they were deployed.  Your hero, His Majesty The Shahinshah, has made it very clear that he looks at the military with contempt and had to be dragged kicking and screaming out to "the desert" when He was a U.S. Senator.  

AND your hero actually has made babying the American citizenry with "affordable health care" a national security issue.  So much for HIS expertise in foreign policy.  

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#139 Hey Dummy.......

So does he!! May not be from Yale, but he has one just the same.......NEXT..........

"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"


#140 Read very carefully

I WANT PROOF THAT SHE SAID IT.  END OF STORY.  And I am ALWAYS going to ask in your case because you constantly lie.  

And what's this?  I smack you around and call you on your behavior, and rather than deal with it like an adult you go running home, screaming to Mommy, I suppose, about how big, evil Unsane is calling you names.   More proof that you have absolutely nothing in terms of counter-arguments.

Why do you think you deserve a modicum of respect here? 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#141 Unsane*

While you are asking goldwater to back up his bs, please ask him to name the 57 states, or was it 59?

I'll check back later.....  around Thanksgiving?....;-)

#142 Coming to this party a bit

Coming to this party a bit late...
Goldwater, as someone who is clearly not a Palin supporter, I find it a bit embarrassing when people try to write her bio based on mis-conception and unsubstantiated assertions.
Let's try to keep our criticisms rational.

I left my filter in Afghanistan.

#143 EXCUSES????

....does Sandy "PANTS" Berger ring a bell....
It's true.."liberalism is a mental disease.."

"Oh please. All I ever here from her followers are excuses. The woman does nothing wrong in their eyes."

...replace "woman" with BHO and then you got it EXACTLY right.

"Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money...." MARGARET THATCHER

#144 goldwater89 troll LIES again right through his green teeth

goldwater89: So because there's no video of something that happened, we should write off someone's first-hand account of it as a lie?

That is a lie. We have the "first-hand account" of what I said here. We have the direct words I typed here and yet you manage to lie about what I said with a straw man LIE. The above statement is not even close to what I said. You have my direct post right in front of you and yet you manage to LIE about it. Just like Steve Schmidt LIES about Sarah Palin.

#145 Ever notice..

Ever notice how this "Republican" goldwater89 won't utter a PEEP about well-documented gaffes that his God committed, as lovingly documented by Blonde? 

But yet he will run with even the slightest claim about Palin and runs with them.

Yeah, if that doesn't indicate his "Republicanism", I don't know what does. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#146 You're right,

You're right, Unsane...........I've also noticed that goldenshower -who claims to be one of 'us' - is constantly bashing ANYONE from 'our' side - except maybe Mittens - yet, when called out on it (and I have done it on various threads) WON'T go after Boy Barry in any specific way. And given his choice of handles, I would think that the guy would be a little more careful about who, and what, he goes after and how he does it.

Actually, I think he's just another phony, trying to deceive people here into thinking he's something that he's not - but, as is typical with a lot of interlopers here on NB, he fails to comprehend that the people here - on the most part - are informed, up-to-date, and sharp when it comes to information, truth, propaganda, posers, and drive-by 'experts' and 'legends in their own minds'.

#147 goldwater, constantly lying

Spoken like someone who saw the movie.  Unfortunately for you she never actually said those things.  

Simply put, goldwater, you constantly, routinely, incessantly lie.  You are lying about this, just as you constantly lie about your not being a Leftist.  (Once again, here you are, a "Rockefeller Republican", attacking the Right, as you do any time you open your mouth here.)  You can't even attack conservatives without lying.  


"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

#148 He might not be lying

In order to lie about something, first you have to know what the truth is, then you have to make a conscious choice to deliberately say something that you know is NOT the truth. In goldwater's case, I don't think for a moment that he has spent any time whatsoever trying to find out if any of the information he was fed by his fellow lefty friends about The Alaskan Goddess is true or not. If he doesn't know what the truth is, it's tough for him to be lying about it.

#149 Like the typical lib

You ridicule everything but her ideas. When your a complete failure, guess thats the best you can do.

Why dont you libs go hibernate, least until the adults straighten out your pathetic mess.

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty

#150 Baltimore TV critic David Zurawik,

Baltimore TV critic David Zurawik, who has seen HBOs forthcoming transparent propaganda, movie “Game Change, said “In a rational world, this film will help guarantee that Sarah Palin will never be elected to any major office again.”

Hmmm, “help guarantee” eh, Zurawik? Overly enjoying false narrative much? Slavering over leftist propaganda and mythology much? Blabbing volumes about your biases much?

Tip your hand much?

"In a rational world..." newspapers and other media outlets would be committed to providing honest objective news, and you would be out of a job.

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

#151 The HBO crowd vs Sarah Pallin

I do NOT take HBO even when they try to give it to me free. It is nothing but pure crap. Mahner is a true representative of what this cable channel truly is. Many comments on here about Palin and what they think this poc will expose about her. Here is the bottom line-say what they will, more Americans know who Sarah Palin is than all the "actors" and "actresses" in this "thing". How many of these people involved in this joke have had people waiting in line to see them? A true hero always rises to the top and Sarah has done that in spades.

#152 Uhhhhh.....

What is HBO?

#153 Not 100% sure

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe HBO is a channel on television that was given away for free by sleazy, hourly rate, motels, particularly in the 1980's.


"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama

#154 Palin

Goodness. I do think her detractors may actually be certifiable. Let's face it, this woman has done absolutely nothing to deserve their hatred and disdain. She's squeaky clean. And these same...severely misguided folks...think Obama is wonderful? Does anyone else have the feeling that there's something just really strange about this? Like supernaturally strange?

Jesus is Lord of All.

#155 Ok I'll bite...

There is NO WAY you are a libtard troll, right?

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend, unless my friend is more evil than my enemy."

#156 You're Grounded....

It's hard to stay grounded when you're chasing popularity instead of virtue. (Hint, hint Obama!) Please enjoy and share the following article. Refuse to be silenced!

Have a great weekend!

J Robert Giles

#157 &#%#&#*&#~!!!

That's all.

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!

#158 Ruk---

Couldn't have said it better myself !


"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

#159 Sarah Palin always has the last laugh

Hey Libs! Thanks for driving her out of office with all those BS ethics complaints. (None of which were ever ruled against her). She's been a great help to us now that she's been freed up from her job as governor and can spend more time in the lower 48.

#160 And that helps how?

As far as I can tell she's not running for anything. And unless her endorsement means something..who cares?
I need to know cause I plan to lay down some major money on the outcome in November.

#161 Suicide mandrake, 3 weeaks til you blow this NB pop stand?

So whom is going to sign her up as VP?
Is that watt yer sayin?

Bet the , 99%?
Aloha, as if....

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